[MR] Your suggestions please

[Arthur Donadio]

Padraigin has hijacked Cuan's account for the purpose of responding.  Cuan did not write this message.  Just trying to be clear.
 
Lady Aminah, 
 
You are incorrect in stating there is no law about covering modern items.  In addition to Corpora's  "attempt" rule (which is far too abused), there is also Atlantian law to consider.
 
10.1   Concerning Non-Period Items 

10.1.1   Canned beverages and other obvious modern items are forbidden at all Kingdom-level events. The one exception is that they are permitted within a pavilion with the owner's express permission. In this case, those who bring the cans or other items are responsible for their timely and discreet disposal. 
10.1.2   Smoking is forbidden in the central area of a Society event. The central area of an event is defined as any area where people must be present in order to participate in the event, such as the hall where a feast is taking place, or the lists and the area surrounding them during a tournament. The autocrat shall define the boundaries of the central area and the autocrat shall, if possible, provide some other area as convenient as may be found where smoking is permitted and made safe and practicable. Smoking is permitted in the interior of pavilion/home only with the express permission of the owner of the pavilion/home. 
10.1.3   The use of flash bulbs is forbidden in the central area of a Society event, being defined as any area where people must be present in order to participate in the event, such as the hall where a feast or court is taking place. The autocrat shall be responsible for defining the boundaries of the central area and should be consulted before any photography using flash bulbs takes place. Photography with flash bulbs is permitted in the interior of a pavilion only with the owner's permission, but only if this use of a flash bulb will not disturb anyone in the main area of an event. It is hoped that anyone taking photographs at any time will first obtain permission from those being photographed as a matter of courtesy.
10.1.4   All plastic and/or modern sports equipment used by all participants on the field of combat must be covered in a manner to disguise the material in an attempt to display historical pre-17th Century accoutrements to the average passerby. 

10.1.4.1   Plastic and other modern materials specifically required to promote safety or those that are medically required are exempt from this ruling. However, every attempt must be made, in good faith, to disguise those items.
10.1.4.2   Hand protection and shield edges may be made of plastic materials. However, it is the owner’s responsibility to attempt to disguise the appearance of those items to bring them into compliance with the spirit of this law.
10.1.4.3   Participants who are residents of another kingdom are to be considered our guests and are exempt from this ruling provided they meet Society minimum standards.
10.1.4.4   Newly transplanted citizens to Atlantia are to be granted a four month period of time to come into compliance with these laws.

Why on earth it states that canned beverages and modern items need only be banned at Kindom-level events, rather than all events, is beyond me.  However, it is clearly the intent that these modern distractions should not be front and center.  As a Kingdom, we have gotten lazy in this regard.
 
Regards,
Padraigin


 
> From: kathygrimes at gmail.com
> To: dragonfly78 at gmail.com; Atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:06:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: [MR] Your suggestions please
> 
> Greetings. I'm pretty sure with this I will need my flame proof suit.
> 
> There is no rule about covering modern things. There is a rule about
> attempting but that does not say where that line for an attempt would be.
> For some it's about covering. For others it's about throwing a tabard over
> sweats. 
> 
> Yes, if you want to create the environment, you should cover, hide and pull
> out stuff. But a rule. Nope there isn't one.
> 
> Pass the fire extinguisher please I feel I may need it.
> Aminah
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Murienne
> l'aloiere
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:15 PM
> To: Merry Rose
> Subject: Re: [MR] Your suggestions please
> 
> How about enforcing the SCA's policies about covering modern things, not
> drinking from soda cans in common areas, and not smoking in main areas of
> the event.
> 
> I think that we should talk a cue or two from the civil war and rev war
> people.
> They hid it or leave it at home.
> 
> The other thing is our speech. I don't think we need to speak "forsoothly"
> but I don't want to talk about what was on tv last night, or who is running
> for public office. That is what facebook is for in my opinion. And I am just
> a guilty as anyone else of doing these things but, I have set goals for
> myself to improve. And I hope others will too!
> 
> Lady Murienne
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