[MR] [atlantianrapiernet] OT: Uncivil antiwar activists (was Remember this day...)

Fri Nov 12 12:53:20 PST 2010

I used to live in Bangor, Maine.  Because of what happened to the Vietnam vets, local groups made sure that EVERY plane returning from the Gulf (first war) that landed in Bangor (which was a jumping off site for troop transport because it had been a B-52 base) had a welcoming committee....folks shook the hand of EVERY person getting off of the plane and there was food/drink and sometimes music provided for the flights....regardless of time of day or season.  Sadly in a way, it's still going on for flights returning from the Gulf.

Brigantia

> From: vern_wade at hotmail.com
> To: jsmithcsa at yahoo.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:38:36 -0500
> Subject: Re: [MR] [atlantianrapiernet] OT: Uncivil antiwar activists (was Remember this day...)
> 
> 
> How time doth change.  After Desert Storm I couldn't pay for a beer....
>  
> > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:34:23 -0800
> > From: jsmithcsa at yahoo.com
> > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> > Subject: Re: [MR] [atlantianrapiernet] OT: Uncivil antiwar activists (was Remember this day...)
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > "I've never known anyone on the anti-war side who had personal animosity toward 
> > any member of the Services who went out and did their duty, laying their lives 
> > on the line."
> > 
> > If you haven't heard from troop-haters, it's because you haven't looked for 
> > them.  You may not know them personally, but they are out there.  Not all 
> > "anti-war" folks have your civility.
> > 
> > First a little background.  My dad had trash and lit cigarettes thrown on him in 
> > the 60s when he was in the Navy.  While I was not a witness, I saw his uniforms 
> > afterwards -- holes and all.  He probably would have preferred to have been spit 
> > on.
> > 
> > When I came back from Iraq, I was called a murderer (by a SCAdian, no less). 
> > I was told the soldiers should not be allowed to return to the United States or 
> > provided food and water or ammunition -- we should all be left to die in Iraq.  
> > One guy was more succinct -- he just told me he hated me.  These are things 
> > people said to ME.  No personal animosity?  Yeah, right.
> > 
> > This is not opposing the war and supporting the troops.
> > 
> > You haven't met anyone who opposes the troops?  Here -- meet some of them 
> > (severe language warning):
> > 
> > http://dead2me.com/the-troops/
> > http://www.capveterans.com/national_veterans_memorials_protection/id110.html
> > http://tinyurl.com/3xcqyq9 
> > http://tinyurl.com/4tas9w 
> > 
> > There's more if you want it.  This is all of their disgusting filth I could 
> > handle in one night.
> > 
> > I hope you had a nice Veteran's Day.  
> >  
> > JEFFREY C. SMITH 
> >  
> > "[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give 
> > their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce 
> > them."
> > -- Candidus (Pen name of Samuel Adams during the era of the Sons of Liberty. 
> > Source: Boston Gazette, 1772)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Roy B. Scherer <rscherer at infionline.net>
> > To: Eric Rankin <jensman0514 at yahoo.com>; Atlantia <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> > Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 11:51:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MR] [atlantianrapiernet] OT: Remember this day...
> > 
> > At 11:18 AM 11/12/2010, Eric Rankin wrote:
> > > I've heard many
> > > stories from my brothers and sisters in arms who laid the path for me back in
> > > Vietnam of coming home and being spit upon, cursed, and even at times 
> > >physically
> > > attacked.
> > 
> >         You know, I've heard those stories too.  What I have NOT heard is any
> > single person, ever, telling me that this happened to him or her, or that he or
> > she did this to any veteran.
> >         I became active in the anti-Viet Nam War movement back around 1965,
> > about 2 1/2 years after I got my discharge from the Air Force.  I waqs greatly
> > influenced by a man who had been a 'copter pilot in Nam, and had first-hand
> > experience of the difficulties resulting from fighting a war with one hand tied
> > behind our backs.
> >         Again, I've often read of veterans being spat upon, but I never heard of
> > this from a spitter or from a veteran who was spat upon.
> >         I knew (and know) a wide range of people.  I've never known anyone on
> > the anti-war side who had personal animosity toward any member of the Services
> > who went out and did their duty, laying their lives on the line.  Indeed, many 
> > of
> > those whom I knew in the movement were themselves veterans.
> >         Has anyone else ever witnessed this first-hand?  Failing that, has
> > anyone ever heard a FIRST-HAND account of such an incident?  Is it possible
> > that this is something that perhaps actualy happened once or twice, and was
> > then taken up and reported throughout the country?
> > -- Britton
> > -- mka Scherer, Roy B.
> > -- formerly USAF ADC, 95th FIS
> > 
> > end
> > 
> >                 - - Roy B. Scherer
> > [529 High Street, Petersburg, VA 23803-3859;
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