[MR] [atlantianrapiernet] OT: Uncivil antiwar activists (was Remember this day...)
Vern Wade
vern_wade at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 12 12:38:36 PST 2010
How time doth change. After Desert Storm I couldn't pay for a beer....
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:34:23 -0800
> From: jsmithcsa at yahoo.com
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] [atlantianrapiernet] OT: Uncivil antiwar activists (was Remember this day...)
>
> Hi there,
>
> "I've never known anyone on the anti-war side who had personal animosity toward
> any member of the Services who went out and did their duty, laying their lives
> on the line."
>
> If you haven't heard from troop-haters, it's because you haven't looked for
> them. You may not know them personally, but they are out there. Not all
> "anti-war" folks have your civility.
>
> First a little background. My dad had trash and lit cigarettes thrown on him in
> the 60s when he was in the Navy. While I was not a witness, I saw his uniforms
> afterwards -- holes and all. He probably would have preferred to have been spit
> on.
>
> When I came back from Iraq, I was called a murderer (by a SCAdian, no less).
> I was told the soldiers should not be allowed to return to the United States or
> provided food and water or ammunition -- we should all be left to die in Iraq.
> One guy was more succinct -- he just told me he hated me. These are things
> people said to ME. No personal animosity? Yeah, right.
>
> This is not opposing the war and supporting the troops.
>
> You haven't met anyone who opposes the troops? Here -- meet some of them
> (severe language warning):
>
> http://dead2me.com/the-troops/
> http://www.capveterans.com/national_veterans_memorials_protection/id110.html
> http://tinyurl.com/3xcqyq9
> http://tinyurl.com/4tas9w
>
> There's more if you want it. This is all of their disgusting filth I could
> handle in one night.
>
> I hope you had a nice Veteran's Day.
>
> JEFFREY C. SMITH
>
> "[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give
> their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce
> them."
> -- Candidus (Pen name of Samuel Adams during the era of the Sons of Liberty.
> Source: Boston Gazette, 1772)
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Roy B. Scherer <rscherer at infionline.net>
> To: Eric Rankin <jensman0514 at yahoo.com>; Atlantia <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 11:51:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [MR] [atlantianrapiernet] OT: Remember this day...
>
> At 11:18 AM 11/12/2010, Eric Rankin wrote:
> > I've heard many
> > stories from my brothers and sisters in arms who laid the path for me back in
> > Vietnam of coming home and being spit upon, cursed, and even at times
> >physically
> > attacked.
>
> You know, I've heard those stories too. What I have NOT heard is any
> single person, ever, telling me that this happened to him or her, or that he or
> she did this to any veteran.
> I became active in the anti-Viet Nam War movement back around 1965,
> about 2 1/2 years after I got my discharge from the Air Force. I waqs greatly
> influenced by a man who had been a 'copter pilot in Nam, and had first-hand
> experience of the difficulties resulting from fighting a war with one hand tied
> behind our backs.
> Again, I've often read of veterans being spat upon, but I never heard of
> this from a spitter or from a veteran who was spat upon.
> I knew (and know) a wide range of people. I've never known anyone on
> the anti-war side who had personal animosity toward any member of the Services
> who went out and did their duty, laying their lives on the line. Indeed, many
> of
> those whom I knew in the movement were themselves veterans.
> Has anyone else ever witnessed this first-hand? Failing that, has
> anyone ever heard a FIRST-HAND account of such an incident? Is it possible
> that this is something that perhaps actualy happened once or twice, and was
> then taken up and reported throughout the country?
> -- Britton
> -- mka Scherer, Roy B.
> -- formerly USAF ADC, 95th FIS
>
> end
>
> - - Roy B. Scherer
> [529 High Street, Petersburg, VA 23803-3859;
> Roy:(804)382-5411; Sally (804) 767-0420]
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