[MR] [atlantianrapiernet] OT: Uncivil antiwar activists (was Remember this day...)

[J. C. Smith Ispán (hon.)]

Hi there,

"I've never known anyone on the anti-war side who had personal animosity toward 
any member of the Services who went out and did their duty, laying their lives 
on the line."

If you haven't heard from troop-haters, it's because you haven't looked for 
them.  You may not know them personally, but they are out there.  Not all 
"anti-war" folks have your civility.

First a little background.  My dad had trash and lit cigarettes thrown on him in 
the 60s when he was in the Navy.  While I was not a witness, I saw his uniforms 
afterwards -- holes and all.  He probably would have preferred to have been spit 
on.

When I came back from Iraq, I was called a murderer (by a SCAdian, no less). 
I was told the soldiers should not be allowed to return to the United States or 
provided food and water or ammunition -- we should all be left to die in Iraq.  
One guy was more succinct -- he just told me he hated me.  These are things 
people said to ME.  No personal animosity?  Yeah, right.

This is not opposing the war and supporting the troops.

You haven't met anyone who opposes the troops?  Here -- meet some of them 
(severe language warning):

http://dead2me.com/the-troops/
http://www.capveterans.com/national_veterans_memorials_protection/id110.html
http://tinyurl.com/3xcqyq9 
http://tinyurl.com/4tas9w 

There's more if you want it.  This is all of their disgusting filth I could 
handle in one night.

I hope you had a nice Veteran's Day.  
 
JEFFREY C. SMITH 
 
"[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give 
their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce 
them."
-- Candidus (Pen name of Samuel Adams during the era of the Sons of Liberty. 
Source: Boston Gazette, 1772)





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From: Roy B. Scherer <rscherer at infionline.net>
To: Eric Rankin <jensman0514 at yahoo.com>; Atlantia <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 11:51:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MR] [atlantianrapiernet] OT: Remember this day...

At 11:18 AM 11/12/2010, Eric Rankin wrote:
> I've heard many
> stories from my brothers and sisters in arms who laid the path for me back in
> Vietnam of coming home and being spit upon, cursed, and even at times 
>physically
> attacked.

        You know, I've heard those stories too.  What I have NOT heard is any
single person, ever, telling me that this happened to him or her, or that he or
she did this to any veteran.
        I became active in the anti-Viet Nam War movement back around 1965,
about 2 1/2 years after I got my discharge from the Air Force.  I waqs greatly
influenced by a man who had been a 'copter pilot in Nam, and had first-hand
experience of the difficulties resulting from fighting a war with one hand tied
behind our backs.
        Again, I've often read of veterans being spat upon, but I never heard of
this from a spitter or from a veteran who was spat upon.
        I knew (and know) a wide range of people.  I've never known anyone on
the anti-war side who had personal animosity toward any member of the Services
who went out and did their duty, laying their lives on the line.  Indeed, many 
of
those whom I knew in the movement were themselves veterans.
        Has anyone else ever witnessed this first-hand?  Failing that, has
anyone ever heard a FIRST-HAND account of such an incident?  Is it possible
that this is something that perhaps actualy happened once or twice, and was
then taken up and reported throughout the country?
-- Britton
-- mka Scherer, Roy B.
-- formerly USAF ADC, 95th FIS

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