[MR] What’s up with Combat Archers & Atlantia?
the.lady.phoenix at gmail.com
the.lady.phoenix at gmail.com
Tue Jun 23 17:09:37 PDT 2009
Since I have all the Society level rules on my computer I thought I would
pull out the relevant sections on Combat Archery ammunition
After my cursory review of these guidelines, if you are using Experimental
ammo, tell the Earl Marshal as out lined in Section XVI (Copied below) to
inform them of what you think, do there need to be changes for safety? etc.
It appears that Tubular Ammo is a society level excepted ammo for Crossbows.
I hope these help anyone looking to get into Combat Archery, get Ammuntion
taht is proper for their Bow (what kind that maybe) but always check with a
marshal to make sure the rules have not changed.
Sara
>From the Marshal's Handbook (Nov 2008);
Section VII Weapon Standards
G. Combat Archery Ammunition
1. All ammunition must have the owner's name & Kingdom displayed
clearly on it.
2. No ammunition may be more than 10% covered in the color yellow.
3. No metal can be used as ammunition construction material.
4. All ammunition has a maximum length of 28 inches (71 cm) from the
back of the blunt, to the string
acceptor on the nock.
5. Ammunition may optionally have fletches as long as they are
securely attached and made of a soft
material. Fletches may not project farther than 1/2 inch (13 mm)
from the shaft if they are less than 1.5
inch (3.8 cm) thick.
6. Light Ammunition (for use in Light bows or Light Crossbows)
a. Shafts of Light ammunition must be solid pultruded fiberglass
of between 1/4 inch (6.5 mm) and 3/8
inch (9.5 mm) diameter.
b. Fiberglass shall be of a good quality, defined as significant
'bending' pressure applied by a marshal not
causing the shaft to break.
c. The shaft must be covered from behind the blunt, to the front
of the Anti-Penetration Device (APD), in
a sturdy tear-resistant tape, such as strapping, electrical,
or duct tape.
d. Anti-Penetration Devices (APDs)
i. APDs must be attached no further than 1/2 inch (13 mm) from the end of
the arrow or bolt
(including nock).
ii. APDs must be attached securely via tape, glue, cable ties, etc. The
method does not matter as long
as it is securely attached and will not come off during normal use.
This will be tested by Marshals
by grabbing and pulling on the APD with moderate force while
twisting it slightly. If it detaches or
moves lengthwise along the shaft, then it is unsafe.
iii. The following are the ONLY approved styles of APDs:
1. Siloflex equivalent
a. APDs must be of Siloflex equivalent material with a pressure
rating between 75 and 200psi.
The outer diameter must be at least 1.25 inches (3.2 cm) or
the inner diameter must be at
least 1 inch (2.5 cm).
b. There may be no cuts in the back end of the APD.
c. The length of the top edge of the APD must be at least 1.25
inches (3.2 cm) if the front is cut
square, or 5/8 inch (16 mm) if the front is cut at a 45
degree angle.
d. APD may have a channel routed in the bottom, and/or cuts made
in the front edge for
helping tape attachment.
e. All sharp edges must be eased.
2. Asgard
a. Asgard APDs have only the following modifications allowed:
Cutting the nock off flush for
use on a crossbow, making small holes for helping
attachment, and roughing surfaces for
gluing.
e. Blunts
i. All blunts must be securely attached via tape, glue, cable ties, etc.
The method does not matter as
long as it is securely attached; however at least one piece of
strapping, electrical or duct tape must
extend over the blunt and be security attached to the shaft on both
sides. This will be tested by
Marshals by grabbing and pulling on the blunt with moderate force
while twisting it slightly. If the
blunt shows signs of moving off of the shaft (twisting around the
shaft is ok), then it fails.
ii. Baldar Blunts
1. Baldar Blunts must be of a type designed for use on Fiberglass
shafts (1/4 inch shaft acceptor),
and can only be used with 1/4 inch or 6.5mm shafts.
2. Only the original 2-piece mold Baldar Blunt is allowed. Blunts
must be attached in such a way
that the blunt can be inspected for the parting line visible
around the circumference of the
thickest part of the blunt in the 2-piece molds. If no parting
line is seen the blunt cannot be
used.
iii. UHMW
1. UHMW blunts are constructed of at least 1.25 inches (3.2 cm)
diameter Ultra-High Molecular
Weight Polyethylene (UHMW) rod with a hole drilled in it to
accept the shaft.
2. The shaft hole must be at least 1/2 inch (13 mm) deep, and there
must be at least 1/2 inch (13
mm) of UHMW in front of the shaft.
3. At least 1/2 inch (13 mm) and at most 1.25 inch (3.2 cm) of
resilient padding after taping must
be added in front of the blunt and be at least the same diameter
as the blunt.
4. The head must have a side-wrap of foam that extends from the tip
of the padding to at least 1/2
inch (13 mm) over the UHMW that brings the total diameter of the
head to at least 1.5 inch (3.8
cm) after taping.
5. The front edges of the blunt must be rounded over.
6. As long as all other requirements are met, the blunt may have
material removed for aerodynamic
or weight reducing purposes.
7. Heavy Ammunition (for use in Heavy bows, Heavy Crossbows, Light bows, or
Light Crossbows)
a. Heavy ammunition must be of one of three styles: Tubular, Tennis Ball,
or Fellwalker.
b. Tubular Ammunition
i. The shaft must be constructed of Siloflex Equivalent with a
pressure rating of 100PSI, 1.25 inches
(3.2 cm) exterior diameter or 1 inch (2.5 cm) interior diameter.
ii. The tail must be left solid for at least 1 inch (2.5 cm). Cuts may
be made beyond that in order to
install fletches if desired but must have holes drilled at the
ends of each cut to keep the cut from
spreading. The tail may be slit if a 1 inch (2.5 cm) or longer
section of siloflex is reinserted at the
end and laced in place. A nock may be cut into the tail end, but
may be no deeper than 1/2 inch (13
mm). Wooden nocks can be installed as long are securely attached
by drilling & lacing with string.
iii. The head must be constructed in one of the following manners. No
matter what the construction,
the head must be firmly attached by the use of tape and/or
string. Marshals will check heads by
pulling on them with a moderate level of force and twisting
slightly. If the head shows signs of
loosening, it fails inspection.
1. Rubber Stopper – A rubber stopper, size 6.5, is placed in the
end of the tube such that it enters
the tube at least 1/2 inch (13 mm) and is well attached.
Resilient padding of at least 1/2 inch
(13 mm) and at most 1.25 inch (3.2 cm), after taping, is
then added on top of it. The head must
also have a side-wrap of foam that extends from the tip of
the padding to at least 1/2 inch (13
mm) over the rubber stopper to bring the total diameter of
the head to at least 1.5 inch (3.8 cm)
after taping.
2. Baldar Blunts – Baldar blunts may be used by cutting the
support fins away so that the blunt
slides over the Siloflex & attaches securely. At least 1/2
inch (13 mm) and at most 1.25 inch
(3.2 cm) of resilient padding after taping must be added to
the tip. The diameter of the foam
after taping must be at least 1.5 inch (3.8 cm). Any classic
style of Baldar Blunt can be used in
this manner, whether 1 or 2 piece mold or designed for
fiberglass or wood.
3. Tennis Ball – A tennis ball is placed at the end of the tube
and attached via tape and/or string.
The ball shall not be perforated as this leads to it getting
dirt/water inside of it.
c. Tennis Balls
i. Regulation tennis balls may be used as ammunition, as is, with the
following restrictions.
1. Ball must weigh less than 3 ounces (85 grams).
2. Ball must not be covered in tape and cannot be yellow. (Dyes
or stains may be used to change
the color)
d. Fellwalker Bolts
i. The “Fellwalker design” is approved for crossbows only
ii. The shaft is of solid fiberglass of between 1/4 inch (6.5 mm) and
3/8 inch (9.5mm) diameter.
iii. The blunt is made from UHMW rod of at least 1.25 inches (3.2 cm)
diameter with a hole drilled in
it to accept the shaft.
iv. The shaft hole must be at least 1 inch (2.5 cm) deep, and there
must be at least 1 inch (2.5 cm) of
UHMW in front of the shaft.
v. The striking surface must have at least 1 inch (2.5 cm) and at most
1.25 inches (3.2 cm) of resilient
foam after taping and be at least the diameter of the blunt.
vi. The head must have a side-wrap of foam that extends from the tip
of the padding to at least 1/2 inch
(13 mm) over the UHMW that brings the total diameter of the head
to at least 1.5 inch (3.8 cm)
after taping.
vii. The tail end must have a disk of UHMW installed that is at least
1.25 inches (3.2 cm) diameter, at
least 1/2 inch (13 mm) thick, and drilled at least 1/4 inch (6.5
mm) deep to accept the shaft. The
leading edge of the blunt and all edges of the APD shall be
rounded over.
SectionXVI Experimental Weapons adn materials procedures
XVI. EXPERIMENTAL WEAPONS AND MATERIALS PROCEDURES
A. Experimental Weapons and Materials
1. Before any unapproved weapon or material can be used at Society
activities, a test plan and a sample of the
proposed weapon or material must be submitted to and approved by
the Society Marshal or a designated
deputy. This plan shall include specifics on construction (e.g.,
materials used, how it is assembled, etc.), an
outline of the test, and all restrictions that will be imposed on
the test. It shall also tell how long the test
period would be. Any samples submitted shall be returned to the
submitting party no later than the
conclusion of the test period, unless otherwise specified.
2. It is the prerogative of the Kingdom Earl Marshal to allow limited
testing of alternate or unapproved
materials and weapons within a kingdom. Limited testing means the
weapon or material may be used at
fighter practice tourneys and in small melees, but only after all
combatants and marshals have been
informed the weapon or material is being tested and that it is not
approved for general SCA use.
3. All combatants and marshals must consent to the use of the weapon
or material before combat begins. If
any of the marshals or combatants object to the use of the material
or weapon, the material or weapon may
not be used. All unapproved materials and weapons shall be marked
with alternating bands of red and
green tape totaling 6 inches in length. Bands shall be visible
during weapon usage.
4. Once per quarter throughout the test period, the Earl Marshal will
update the Society Marshal on the
progress and results of the testing. At the end of the test period,
the Earl Marshal will provide the Society
Marshal with a test summary. This summary shall include a list of
injuries that resulted from the use of the
weapon or material and any concerns from fighters and marshals
recorded during the testing. The Society
Marshal, after consultation with the Earls Marshal, shall determine
if the weapon or material is suitable for
SCA combat-related activities.
2009/6/23 Sandra Rangel <arwynn16 at gmail.com>
> I responded to Wolfram offlist; an offer of encouragement.. but what I
> recommend is that if anyone is interested in CA in more depth there is a
> yahoo group called "SCA-Missile-Combat" that is very active in the
> discussion of this sport. Anything from the updates of arrow specs (society
> wide) to safety issues such as helm penetrations....
>
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