[MR] What's up with Combat Archers & Atlantia?

[Laurence Lagnese]

*"3.5.3.2.2*   Arrows/bolts may have a base construction of either a wooden
shaft, a fiberglass shaft, or a golf tube. Arrows/bolts made from Siloflex
tubing (as described in the website:
http://users.ev1.net/~theweb/siloarrows.htm) are allowed on an experimental
basis."

Direct quote from the The Policies of the Great Officers of the Kingdom of
Atlantia http://law.atlantia.sca.org/Policy.html#3.5
Just some good info to pass on...



On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:

> i will leave this to the earl marshal to address.
>
> however, i would like to point out that you make a lot of assumptions that
> are incorrect.  the atlantian chivalry have not discussed pushing any
> changes to the way combat archery is done since ive been a knight.  the
> fighting community, at least in my circles, has not done so either.  you
> also make an assumption that any change to combat archery that the combat
> archers dont like is a conspiracy to try and "keep their numbers down".
>  ive
> never seen anyone attempt that on a societal level within the chivalry and
> certainly not on an atlantian level.  i would recommend asking for
> clarification to something overheard and saving judgment time for after
> compiling all the facts.  there are a lot of valid arguments against combat
> archery the way it is handled in the sca currently and a very active push
> to
> correct the many issues or simply ban it.  atlantia, as a kingdom, is
> silent
> on these issues although there are a number of us fighters that are, and
> have been, actively involved in trying to solve the problems.  but, those
> are individuals within the fighting community working to correct issues and
> find compromises, not something "atlantia" is doing.  i personally cant
> recall any discussions about tube arrows in a very long time so i am unable
> to comment on the rumor you heard.
>
> regards
> logan
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Richard E
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:11 PM
> To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: [MR] What's up with Combat Archers & Atlantia?
>
>
> Why do Atlantians dislike combat archery so much? After Pennsic last year,
> I
> had thought that Atlantia was starting to see the value of CA. But, I heard
> this weekend that Atlantia will be banning tube (siloflex) ammo after
> Pennsic this year. I hope that I just misunderstood what was being said,
> because that will cause a lot of people to quit doing Combat Archery. I
> know
> my friends and I have almost $600 invested in tube bolts and over $1200 in
> crossbows designed to shoot them! This gear isn't cheep! I don't know how
> Atlantia can expect people to loose that kind of investment and keep
> playing!
>
> I honestly can't see why Atlantia would have a problem with tube ammo
> anyway. Heavy bows/crossbows and tube ammo has been deemed safe at the
> Society level as well as in numerous other kingdoms. An Atlantian swung
> sword will hit with a lot more mass and force then any bolt or arrow ever
> will! So why is the Atlantian Chivalry/heavy fighters trying to keep the CA
> numbers down? Remember, bows/crossbows are weapons of war. In most cases,
> they are going to be used against our enemies in support of our own troops.
> Keeping the Combat Archer numbers down is only going to hurt Atlantia and
> help our rivals. They are working on build up their CA numbers, so don't
> you
> think it would be wise for us to do the same? Not make it harder and drive
> combat archers away!
>
> If someone could explain what is going on, and why, I would greatly
> appreciate it! Also, is there a Forum where this stuff is discussed? If we
> could see and take part in the discussions, we wouldn't feel so blindsided
> when the rules get changed.
>
> Wolfram Brant
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