[MR] Fw: Re: The quiet musings of a "nobody" (slightly long)

[M'lady Foxy]

I think one simple answer to this problem comes down to be careful of your surroundings and if someone does something you are not comfortable with to let them know that you are not comfortable.Everyone has diffrent comfort zones.. what may ok to other may be beyond your comfort zone.That doesn't make it right or wrong in this case because we do not know the whole story.I have myself been to many pennsics and find in general the men of SCA are helpfull and kind.Yes I have had one case where I did find my dagger at the throat of someone quite larger then myself in one case so I am aware there are dangers.I see at war women who place themselves in dangerous places and compromise thier own safety.Use common sense at events...if using a public shower keep your clothes close to you... if you are in a darken place walk with a group of people and tag on to the crowd passing by try to be aware of who you surround yourself with or at least try to make sure someone
 you know is within shout distance and if not shout anyway!The best way to show attention to an unwanted advance is call attention to it.If any one with training in self defense can offer other ways to protect yourself please share with us!

 From one who takes her safety in her own hands and not others.....

--- On Wed, 2/18/09, Alan MacNeill <gormofberra at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Alan MacNeill <gormofberra at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MR] Fw: Re: The quiet musings of a "nobody" (slightly long)
To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 11:22 AM

I am a comparative nobody, with no dog in this fight...I do not know
the details of the incidents in question, and I have no desire to
know.

However, that being said...I wonder how many of the people with strong
opinions on the subject, particularly relating to one particular
person, actually *know* first hand what went on, what the accusations
are, what the evidence is, what the defense is, and etc.

Versus how many have heard second, third or fourth hand recountings of
stories, and jumped to conclusions with questionable knowledge of
reality.

The SCA is famous for being a game of telephone...regarding this one
particular gentle, I have heard the gamut from "He made an innocent
flirt at the wrong person at the wrong time, who knew someone, which
was misinterpreted and is being railroaded because of it" to "He
attempted to force himself upon somoene, but only got stopped when
someone threatened with steel".

Presumably, the truth is somewhere between those two extremes.

With few exceptions, nobody on this list knows what actually happened.
 Nor do the majority of the Peers of the Kingdom. Why the rest are
being dragged through the mud of being asked to make a decision how
they feel, without all of the evidence, without any defense by the
accused, without any sort of formal procedure...strikes me as
inappropriate.  It also concerns me that I have seen these petitions
being circulated in a very targetted manor.  I have seen a petition
carrier walk past three Peers, to approach a 4th and get a signature.

There was a hearing before the BoD, a sanction was issued, so far as I
know it has been followed.  Presumably, they have heard more of the
evidence from more of the people than any of us can claim to have been
able to.

What, exactly, is wrong with letting the people who are the judge,
jury, and executioner do their job and be satisfied with the outcome?
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