[MR] Proposal for reducing the backlog of scrolls withhelpfromBarons/esses and Heralds

[David Chessler]

But there are some persona for which arms are surely inappropriate at 
any time or place. Peasants, merchants, craftsmen, Jews, Gypsies, and 
other minorities come to mind.

Now, John the Red Nose might be an interesting character, but he 
surely didn't use the cutty wren as a badge--though his group, 
including Milder, Malder, Fessel, and Fose surely did.

But a grant of individual arms for him is clearly a-historic. 
However, as I read the rules of SCA Heraldry (and I am not a herald 
nor do I play one on TV), John the Red Nose can't simply  use the 
arms of his city as his badge. Nor can the five peasant rebels share 
a badge of the cutty wren.

But bearing a coat of arms is part of the game we are playing, even 
if we are being a-historic with respect to pur personum (persona). I 
guess that's why it's CREATIVE Anachronism.

And some active just may not be that interested in a specific 
activity. Some don't sew. Some don't cook. Some don't have a period 
handwriting. And some don't care about arms. The trick is to be 
accommodating to all.

At 10:49 PM 6/19/2007, Vels inn Viggladi wrote:

> >Point Being: a culture-styled depiction doesn't to a single thing to
> >address
> >the fact that the entire milieu is incorrect for a lot of peoples for a
> >majority of the period.
>
>(yes, I'm replying to myself)
>
>First, I'd like to apologize for going off tangentially with my last post.
>
>Overall: It's a Swiftian concept, but overhauling the CoA so as to allow a
>wider variety of heraldic display beyond what is correct for 14th century
>French and English landholders would help in getting more registrations of
>heraldry, and thus, less of a backlog.
>I'm not suggesting expand to _every_ form of personal display used over the
>thousand or so years, because then we'd get into people arguing over who has
>the rights to wear a red tunic with olive and blue herringbone trews, with a
>light blue garter on their left arm... Just gets ludicrous.
>
>However, expanding to include other similar styles of deriving heraldic
>imagery other than 14th+ century Angevin-landowning-descended rules would
>provide an increase in registerable personal heraldry. Adding a little line
>on the device registration for "Which cultural heraldic style is this
>governed" is minor paperwork. Getting a body of heralds studied in several
>different styles of medieval heraldry is another matter.
>
>Alternatively, if someone is of the determination that they have no
>interest, by their study or any other reason, to have personally registered
>heraldry, hand them a promissory and a medallion or other dubis if it's
>appropriate and take them off the list of those needing "formal" scrolls. If
>they want one later and have registered heraldry, they can commission one.
>
>Not to say anyone in particular would like these ideas, but they are ideas
>that may work.
>
>
>
>Vels
>
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