[MR] Proposal for reducing the backlog of scrolls with help fromBarons/esses and Heralds

Anthony Bryant anthony_bryant at cox.net
Mon Jun 18 14:40:22 PDT 2007


On Jun 18, 2007, at 10:11 AM, Kelly Keck wrote:

>
>
> I definitely agree.  Also, is heraldry period for every persona?   
> It's by no
> means my area of expertise, but I'm sure there are heralds on the  
> list who
> can give us a history of heraldry and where/when devices were used to
> identify an individual.
>
> Someone with a Viking or Chinese or what have you might choose not to
> register a device because it doesn't fit with their persona--does  
> that mean
> they should never get a scroll if they've received an award?

I have always looked at it this way. I may be a Viking or samurai or  
Chinese official... but I am NOT IN Sweden, Japan, or China. I'm in  
ATLANTIA. And my king is that Atlantian guy, not some Viking  
chieftan, some guy down in Kyoto, or some guy in the Fobidden City.

In Atlantia, you do good stuff and they give you ARMS. Yeah, a  
Japanese guy wouldn't have "arms" -- but he can register something  
that evokes his Japanese nature and heritage and still fits with the  
fact that THE KING OF ATLANTIA gave him the right to display them.

It's not hard to come up with Islamic/Chinese/Japanese/whatever  
motifs that can function in a European milieu. And in my mind,  
refusing to register arms -- when they've specifically been granted  
to you (doesn't the AoA text say "We charge you ... to determine  
uniqe and suitable arms"? That's a royal command, after all) is a  
slap in the face of the royalty that gave the award.

Yes, your persona may come from a pre-heraldic or non-heraldic  
society -- but Atlantia is NOT a non-heraldic society, and you are an  
armiger of Atlantia, not of whathaveyou.


Effingham




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