[MR] "Answered Privately"

Sir Janos of Cyddlain Downs sirjanos at sc.rr.com
Wed Sep 14 14:58:33 PDT 2005


I believe your final paragraph states my thoughts exactly.

Janos

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Logan" <logan at ebonwoulfe.com>
To: <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MR] "Answered Privately"


> actually your majesty it reads:
>
> "an acceptable thrusting blow to the face shall be a directed touch and
> shall be substantially lighter than to other parts of the body"
>
> the argument that a "directed touch" means mere contact is not applicable
> since it also says "shall be substantially lighter than to other parts of
> the body".  the definition of substantial is one that can be argued but i
> would offer that 51% is more than substantial.  25% is substantial as well
> and i dont think anyone receiving a 25% cut in pay would argue that.
> directed touch is very poor wording to use to try and describe a thrust
that
> is pointed straight at the face.  directed touch is in there to prevent
> people from taking a shot that scrapes the grille of their helmet.  a shot
> which, clearly, makes contact with the grille and hits a lot harder than
> most people require of a thrust to be bested.  yet, we dont take those and
> some argue that the blade would never make contact with the face.  that is
> the intent of "directed touch" to most of us that have discussed and
debated
> the idea of light face thrusts.  and yes, we have asked the sem for a
> clarification on that and have been told that it will be made clear in the
> rewrite.
>
> personally i dont care for thrusts to the face being anything less than
full
> force.  the fact that a little jab can end a fight robs so much of this
> sport for me that i find it distasteful.  8)
>
> regards
> logan
>
>
> www.ebonwoulfe.com
>
> Never explain - your friends do not need it and your enemies will not
> believe you anyway.
>
> If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his
> vengeance need not be feared.
>
>
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Sir Janos of
> Cyddlain Downs
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:50 PM
> To: merry rose
> Subject: Re: [MR] "Answered Privately"
>
> It is simple, the Society Marshal rules call for basically a touch kill to
> the face.  The wording is (directed touch).  Personally We don't like the
> idea that a scratch could determine the fight.  Since we can't change
> Society rules and make it full (or at least significant force), we just
> removed them for Crown.  Thrust are still allowed anywhere else.
>
> In Service,
>
> Janos & Rachel
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vels inn Viggladi" <velsthe1 at hotmail.com>
> To: <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [MR] "Answered Privately"
>
>
> >
> > Your Majesty,
> >
> >
> > Out of curiosity: could you enlighten us as to the purpose of the
> > prohibition against face thrusts from single handed weapons?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Vels
> >
> > >Greetings Atlantia,
> > >
> > >     With all this mention of Crown and the requirements, we thought to
> > >include our specific requirements for this upcoming Crown.  This is
from
> > >Our
> > >letter that will be in the October newsletter.
> > >
> > >           Our Crown Tourney will be held in Florence, SC on November
> 5th.
> > >We encourage any entrants to send your letters to Us and to Dame Anne
> > >seneschal at atlantia.sca.org as soon as possible.  If you have not
entered
> a
> > >Crown Tourney in the last 3-4 years or ever, We will need you to send a
> > >line
> > >drawing of your arms to Us so a shield can be painted for you.  The
> tourney
> > >will be standard double-elimination with the finals being the best 2
out
> of
> > >3, matched weapons.  You must have registered Arms to compete in Our
> Crown
> > >tourney, or have made a reasonable attempt. (i.e. your arms are in the
> > >process of being registered as of 9/10/05).  One final change, single
> > >handed
> > >weapon face thrusts will not be allowed.
> > >
> > >Thank you
> > >
> > >Janos & Rachel
> > >Rex et Regina Atlantia
> >
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