[MR] "Answered Privately"

[Logan]

 actually your majesty it reads:

"an acceptable thrusting blow to the face shall be a directed touch and
shall be substantially lighter than to other parts of the body"

the argument that a "directed touch" means mere contact is not applicable
since it also says "shall be substantially lighter than to other parts of
the body".  the definition of substantial is one that can be argued but i
would offer that 51% is more than substantial.  25% is substantial as well
and i dont think anyone receiving a 25% cut in pay would argue that.
directed touch is very poor wording to use to try and describe a thrust that
is pointed straight at the face.  directed touch is in there to prevent
people from taking a shot that scrapes the grille of their helmet.  a shot
which, clearly, makes contact with the grille and hits a lot harder than
most people require of a thrust to be bested.  yet, we dont take those and
some argue that the blade would never make contact with the face.  that is
the intent of "directed touch" to most of us that have discussed and debated
the idea of light face thrusts.  and yes, we have asked the sem for a
clarification on that and have been told that it will be made clear in the
rewrite.

personally i dont care for thrusts to the face being anything less than full
force.  the fact that a little jab can end a fight robs so much of this
sport for me that i find it distasteful.  8)

regards
logan


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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Sir Janos of
Cyddlain Downs
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:50 PM
To: merry rose
Subject: Re: [MR] "Answered Privately"

It is simple, the Society Marshal rules call for basically a touch kill to
the face.  The wording is (directed touch).  Personally We don't like the
idea that a scratch could determine the fight.  Since we can't change
Society rules and make it full (or at least significant force), we just
removed them for Crown.  Thrust are still allowed anywhere else.

In Service,

Janos & Rachel



----- Original Message -----
From: "Vels inn Viggladi" <velsthe1 at hotmail.com>
To: <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MR] "Answered Privately"


>
> Your Majesty,
>
>
> Out of curiosity: could you enlighten us as to the purpose of the
> prohibition against face thrusts from single handed weapons?
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Vels
>
> >Greetings Atlantia,
> >
> >     With all this mention of Crown and the requirements, we thought to
> >include our specific requirements for this upcoming Crown.  This is from
> >Our
> >letter that will be in the October newsletter.
> >
> >           Our Crown Tourney will be held in Florence, SC on November
5th.
> >We encourage any entrants to send your letters to Us and to Dame Anne
> >seneschal at atlantia.sca.org as soon as possible.  If you have not entered
a
> >Crown Tourney in the last 3-4 years or ever, We will need you to send a
> >line
> >drawing of your arms to Us so a shield can be painted for you.  The
tourney
> >will be standard double-elimination with the finals being the best 2 out
of
> >3, matched weapons.  You must have registered Arms to compete in Our
Crown
> >tourney, or have made a reasonable attempt. (i.e. your arms are in the
> >process of being registered as of 9/10/05).  One final change, single
> >handed
> >weapon face thrusts will not be allowed.
> >
> >Thank you
> >
> >Janos & Rachel
> >Rex et Regina Atlantia
>
>
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