[MR] Greetings, thanks, and notice: a heraldic question

[E L Wimett]

Well, actually, Terry, you did NOT give up on that five years ago!  When you
approached me about it at a consult table three years ago when your lady's
name and device were in submission, I put through a request for change in
the blazon to put back the detailing that you had originally submitted and
the Laurel Office did that.  So you are actually using what the Laurel
Office has registered to you.  Sorry to disappoint you!!!

For those who don't know what is going on, Terry's armory was originally
registered MANY years ago (1975) when blazon was a lot more fluid.  They
used the term animé to represent the fact that the eyes of his cat were red
with flames.

When I was Laurel Queen of Arms myself back in May, 1990, in the course of
doing a visual check on Terry's armory, we realized that animé meant nothing
to any of the heralds who commented so reblazoned the arms to match the
picture.

Unfortunately, the emblazon forms had lost most of the gold color on them.
(This is one of the reasons that the Laurel Office wants us to use Crayolas
now and NOT use metallic inks or paint.)   As a result, the flames issuing
from the eyes of Terry's cat were omitted from the blazon.

Back in 2002 Terry complained about that to me, I sent through a request for
reblazon via Golden Dolphin and the Laurel Office put back the flames.  The
College of Heralds IS a customer service organization after all, no matter
what the bad rep a few of us give the group as a whole. . .

Alisoun, now Golden Dolphin herself

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[mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Terry Buyers
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [MR] Greetings, thanks, and notice: a heraldic question


Or submit a device and then ignore the heralds in all subsequent 
communications, which is pretty much what I've done for years. If I 
ever manage to get a weekend off to make an event in your area, check 
my battle banner (made for me by a former Laurel King at Arms) for my 
opinion on the entire situation. 

Especially after having a registered device for over 20 years and then 
having the heralds change said device for some paper-shuffling reason. 

Gave up trying to get things straightened out over 5 years ago and just 
use the original device or my household colors quartered. The point is 
to have some sort of heraldry attached to you so we can recognize you 
on the field when you get that pretty new armor none of us has seen 
before. 

To paraphrase Napoleon speaking about the Pope, "Laurel King at Arms? 
Really? How big an army does he have?"

               Taras




On Wednesday 11 May 2005 12:53, Aimee Kratts wrote:

>
> Can someone clarify for us new and part-time heralds this point on
> the rules:
>
> I've been told that as soon as someone submits paperwork for a
> device, that person can begin to use the device...whether it has
> passed or not.
>
> Subsequently, if the device passes, everything is cool. If the device
> doesn't pass, than the person must resubmit again, stop using the
> failed device and start using the resubmitted device.
>
> Is this correct?
>

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