[MR] Greetings, thanks, and notice: a heraldic question

[Glynis Gwynedd]

Good gentles, the noble in question has been duly corrected on his
choice of terminology.  Would it be possible for all who may be
considering responding further on this matter to PLEASE stop NOW
before this becomes an all-out attack upon him?  He has been corrected
at least twice as of this email.  Regardless of whether or not HIS
choice of words were pleasant or polite (and I am not saying whether I
felt they were, or were not), the matter has been addressed.  It is
very hurtful to be reprimanded once, much less two or (as I have
experienced) five to ten times.  For every three postings to this
august list, there is usually at least one private reply tendered.

Thank you all for your input and cooperation in being chivalrous and
contributing to the Dream.

On 5/11/05, Michael Houghton <herveus at radix.net> wrote:
> Howdy!
> 
> You are Taras Stefan Karanczay, right? On that basis, I continue:
> 
> On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 01:18:54PM -0400, Terry Buyers wrote:
> >
> > Or submit a device and then ignore the heralds in all subsequent
> > communications, which is pretty much what I've done for years. If I
> > ever manage to get a weekend off to make an event in your area, check
> > my battle banner (made for me by a former Laurel King at Arms) for my
> > opinion on the entire situation.
> >
> > Especially after having a registered device for over 20 years and then
> > having the heralds change said device for some paper-shuffling reason.
> 
> A device was registered in August of 1975. It was reblazoned in May of
> 1990, and then again in October of 2002. At no time was it "changed".
> The picture in the files is the one registered in 1975. The blazon was
> merely changed to make it more accurately describe the picture, in part
> so that a competent scribe could more accurately reproduce it from the
> blazon.
> 
> If that is a "paper-shuffling" reason, so be it, but it is needlessly
> demeaning to put it that way.
> >
> > Gave up trying to get things straightened out over 5 years ago and just
> > use the original device or my household colors quartered. The point is
> > to have some sort of heraldry attached to you so we can recognize you
> > on the field when you get that pretty new armor none of us has seen
> > before.
> 
> What's to straighten out? The device is unchanged. Only the text that
> describes it changed.
> >
> > To paraphrase Napoleon speaking about the Pope, "Laurel King at Arms?
> > Really? How big an army does he have?"
> 
> I think Da'ud ibn Auda could have marshalled a healthy squad of Dukes
> (with heraldic credentials) to offer an answer, and I suspect that most
> of the other folks who have served as Laurel could, if pressed, muster
> something similar.
> 
> This entire diatribe really does nothing to advance the discourse. Would
> you advance similar aguments to "ignore the marshals"? It is curious to
> see such from someone who claims the mantle of knighthood so plainly.
> 
> yours,
> Herveus
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