[MR] Greetings, thanks, and notice: a heraldic question

[Aimee Kratts]

Greetings:

Can someone clarify for us new and part-time heralds this point on the 
rules:

I've been told that as soon as someone submits paperwork for a device, that 
person can begin to use the device...whether it has passed or not.

Subsequently, if the device passes, everything is cool. If the device 
doesn't pass, than the person must resubmit again, stop using the failed 
device and start using the resubmitted device.

Is this correct?

In Service,

Amie Sparrow
Scribe

>From: James.Harvey.Davis at pmusa.com
>To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
>Subject: RE: [MR] Greetings, thanks, and notice.
>Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:12:30 -0400
>
>Herveus, you might want to re-read this part
>
>"(i.e. passed Laurel or by our minds, have made a reasonable attempt)"
>
>HRH knows it won't be done in time if you're starting from ground zero.
>Submit your stuff and document it.  No worries.
>
>Gerlach
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org
>[mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Michael Houghton
>Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:58 AM
>To: merry rose
>Subject: Re: [MR] Greetings, thanks, and notice.
>
>
>Howdy!
>
>On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 07:41:29AM -0400, Prince Janos wrote:
>[snip]
> >
> >     Speaking of the Shield Tree, one thing that distresses us every time
>is
> > seeing the spike shields on the tree.  Those are used for those 
>combatants
> > who do not have personal heraldry or it has not passed Laurel yet.  We
>wish
> > it known, that in six months, at Fall Crown Tourney, We will only accept
> > Letters of Intent from those who have Heraldry (i.e. passed Laurel or by
>our
> > minds, have made a reasonable attempt).  This is not meant to discourage
>any
> > from entering, but to greatly encourage everyone to submit personal
>heraldry
> > as We feel this greatly enhances many aspects of what is great about the
> > SCA.  This pertains only to the combatants, not their consorts, though 
>it
> > would please us to see the consorts displaying their heraldry as well.  
>So
> > if you have thoughts of entering Crown, we urge you to submit your 
>chosen
> > device to the College of Heralds as soon as possible.
>
>If someone submits armory right now, it it not assured that it will have
>been
>ruled on by Laurel by the time letters are due. I applaud the intent behind
>this condition, but I fear that it may have unintended side effects.
>
>I don't have much time right this moment to speak more fully; I will expand
>on my remarks in the near future unless someone else speaks my mind before
>I get a chance to do so.
>
>yours,
>Herveus
>--
>Michael and MJ Houghton   | Herveus d'Ormonde and Megan O'Donnelly
>herveus at radix.net         | White Wolf and the Phoenix
>Bowie, MD, USA            | Tablet and Inkle bands, and other stuff
>                           | http://www.radix.net/~herveus/wwap/
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