[MR] re: announcement from SCA Pres

[C N Schwartz]

Michael Jackson is in the SCA?








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From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org
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Subject: Re: [MR] re: announcement from SCA Pres


On the one hand innocent until proven guilty is a truth. On the other hand
we do not want to convict someone in a puiblic forum before they go on
trial. However if one is charged it is a matter of public record and not a
secret.

Reason I bring this up is that a member of our kingdom was recently
convicted of child abuse. Yes, it occurred in the mundane world, and
apparenlty there was a descision to keep it quite until he was convicted. As
far as I have been able to find out, nothing improper happened at a SCA
event or meeting.

Now my problem with this is that this individual confessed from the get go.
He admited guilt, his lawyer admited guilt, and everyone in the know knew he
was guilty. However it was kept quite well after he was convicted and went
to jail. I, a parent that had this individual over to my house around my
children, did not know about any of this until he was recently banished.

Now this angers me on a couple of levels. One I would have liked to know as
soon as possible that a child molester was in my home. Secoundly if this
person had been charged, and was on bail, and people/officers in my Barony
and Kingdom knew he had been charged and kept quite, said Barony and Kingdom
would have been liable if he did anything to my kids.

I would also find it the lowest form of a human being if someone in my
barony allowed my kids to be put in a position of danger in order to protect
someone's legal standing.

So, I see a quandry, Privacy and Innocent until proven quilty vs. Safty of
children and Liability of our Kingdom and the SCA.

This is a difficult thing. I do not want a innocent's reputation ruined due
to some emotional overreaction and rumor mongering(Which has happened in our
Kingdom). However, under the above circumstance, I would have liked to have
know about a convicted child molester being in my home a lot sooner then
what happened.


----- Original Message -----

  To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
  Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 4:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [MR] re: announcement from SCA Pres


  Erich I think your post is what the earlier post about avoiding this topic
  wished to avoid. Remember this guy is innocent until proven guilty and
there
  are many cases of children lying about this kind of thing. A jury will
hear
  all the evidence and make a ruling.

  That said I read some of the children's testimony and if he is found
guilty
  he deserves every beating he takes in prison.

  I hope this does not start some panic, it did not happen at an SCA event,
  and not all the victims are in the SCA. As already stated you can't
predict
  these things and without previous history of such acts how could we weed a
  person with this perversion out? Parents just have to be there as much as
  possible.

  Remember innocent until proven guilty. We will all know the truth soon
  enough.



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  From:
  To: atlantia <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
  Subject: Re: [MR] re: announcement from SCA Pres
  Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:00:28 -0500

  Belphoebe,
  I think you mean "prosecuted" rather than "persecuted". In any case,
  frequently all that needs to be done is to tell the other inmates what
  the molester is in for. Note the photograph in
  http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/11/12/abuse.sleepovers.ap/ --
  somebody in the jail found out.


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