[MR] Kingdom level event bids

[Arthur Donadio]

Let me respond to this and several other posts on the subject of kingdom
event bids.  First, the kingdom does sponsor events on occasion without
involving a specific group, or finds the right individual to autocrat and
let's that autocrat involve a group or groups.  These days that happens only
in "emergencies".  And the kingdom does not need to ask local groups to use
a particular site.

I do not see a scenario in which the Crown will not choose the site of
Coronation any time in the near future because no King and Queen from South
Carolina, whose household, supporters and closest friends are from South
Carolina, will want to hold their Coronation in northern Maryland.  Nor will
the interest in a Southern Crown's Coronation be as high in the North, thus
affecting attendance.

The reason events are bid so far in advance is to allow groups time to find
and secure sites in areas where suitable sites are scarce and get reserved
early by other groups if we do not act.  This system was set up to give all
groups in the kingdom a chance to find sites and bid events on an equal
footing.  The failure of groups to take advantage of the bidding process
should not be blamed on the bid system.  If I lived in Northern Virginia, I
would appreciate that bids are taken six months in advance, as that would
mean that when I call sites to see if they are available six months out, I
would have a chance at finding an open site.  The fact is that the same
groups seem to continually bid for Kingdom events, and consequently end up
getting them.

I would suggest that groups that are interested in hosting Kingdom events
contact the Seneschal's deputy for event bids, Lady Katherine Luvel, for
information about what kinds of things should be taken into account when
preparing a bid for a Kingdom level event.

Last, thank you all for your interest in improving Atlantia's scheduling of
Kingdom events.

Sincerely,

Cuan


>From: "Nicholas Soucy" <beeker at blazemail.com>
>To: <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
>Subject: RE: [MR] Kingdom level event bids
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:07:11 -0500
>
>Well, my 2 cents:
>
>I would say that we should allow individuals to submit bids as
>autocrats, which the sponsoring group could be the Kingdom.  Especially
>for the events where costs are at a minimum (University and Unevent),
>the Kingdom could be the hosting group.  This allows for individuals to
>come up with a good idea for an event and get it going, even if a local
>group doesn't want to sponsor an event.  Then, the Kingdom could ask the
>local group to borrow the site just like any other group asking to
>borrow a site.
>
>Also, I think 4 months might make more sense than 6, but then again, I'm
>not taking the bids, and I don't want to be the person taking the bids,
>so I'll defer to the preferences of the person who is doing the job.
>
>YIS
>Lord Girard le Bourguignon
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: atlantia-admin at atlantia.sca.org
>[mailto:atlantia-admin at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Halstead
>Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:15 PM
>To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
>Subject: [MR] Kingdom level event bids
>
>HRH Logan said:
> >with the bid for coronation coming in so late (as is
> >the case with so many kingdom events) there has been
> >little time to get one together.  that being the case
> >i would hope that more groups will put in bids
> >for kingdom events and that those planning on going
> >to those events make plans to do so either way.
>
>Unfortunately, while I'd love to see events set
>further in advance, I think this is a case of our best
>intents backfiring on us. With bids for events due 6+
>months in advance, it becomes difficult to secure
>sites. Groups can't reserve many sites that far ahead,
>and therefore don't bother, because they figure
>someone else will rise to the occasion. There are then
>very few bids, or in some cases, like the winter
>University that Isenfir just hosted, there are no
>bids, and one has to hope that some ambitious group
>will decide to scramble and make a saving throw. I
>think the end result is that the deadline is
>exacerbating the problem rather than improving it. I'm
>not certain what a good answer would be -- if you move
>the deadline too far forward, groups then have to
>scramble to pull off the event, not to mention have
>attendees scrambling if they want to attend, which
>isn't good either. Perhaps Lady Katherine, who handles
>Kingdom level event bids, could lend some insight . .
>. Under any circumstances, does anyone out there have
>a better idea to encourage more groups to bid more
>rapidly for Kingdom level events?
>
>Debora, who's now that she's no longer a seneschale,
>has time to research her leads on Isenfir sites for
>12th night and Crown/Coronations . . .
>
>=====
>Debora di Gioiellerie/d'Orifice/McArgh/the Cynical of Isenfir
>Now-Deputy Seneschale of the Shire Of Isenfir
>
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