[MR] [HERALDRY] Laurel RETURNS for January, 2003

Gorm of Berra gormofberra at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 28 06:30:07 PDT 2003


Unto the Crown, Peers, and Populace of Atlantia does Gorm of Berra, Golden

Dolphin Herald, send greetings:

At his meetings in January, 2003 (reported to us on April 26), the Laurel
soverign of Arms considered the following items.  Unfortunately, he was unable
to register them, and therefore RETURNED them.  Their submitters will be
receiving a letter explaining the reasons for the returns in detail, and will
have one year from the dates of those letters to resubmit revised items at no
additional charge:

   Alejandro Mateo Ramirez. Badge. (Fieldless) A dragon's jambe erased
   argent maintaining a heart gules.

       This conflicts with a badge of the Middle Kingdom,
       (Fieldless) A dragon's gamb couped erect maintaining a roundel
       argent, charged with a pale gules. There is one CD for
       fieldlessness but no difference for changing the small
       maintained charges.

   Alianor atte Red Swanne. Device. Or, a swan rousant contourny gules
   and a sinister tierce sable semy-de-lis Or.

       The SCA does not register charged tierces.

   Bronwen inghean an Druaidh. Name.

       The name was returned for stylistic reasons.  Her armory has been
       registered under the holding name Bronwen of Hindscroft.

   Guendolen of Cumbria. Device. Argent, on a bend gules a fox collared
   and shackled courant argent, in chief a thistle vert headed argent.

       This thistle is drawn with the head tinctured in argent, on the
       argent field. As such, the charge has insufficient contrast, as
       a key identifying portion of the thistle has no contrast.

   Ichijou Jirou Toshiyasu. Device. Per fess rayonny sable and gules,
   in base a fox sejant guardant argent.

       Conflict with a badge of Asne Whitewolf, (Fieldless) A wolf
       sejant argent. There is one CD for fieldlessness but nothing for
       location on the field versus a fieldless badge, no posture
       difference between sejant and sejant guardant, and no type
       difference between a fox and a wolf.

   Magy Freyser. Device. Vert, on a bend argent a dragonfly purpure
   between two strawberries proper all palewise.

       The device conflicts with Annalind Airamid the Healer, Vert, on
       a bend argent a caduceus palewise vert between a sprig of white
       willow [Salix alba] and a foxglove slipped and leaved [Digitalis
       purpurea] palewise proper. There is only one CD for cumulative
       changes to the group of tertiary charges by RfS X.4.j. This also
       conflicts with Olaf the Maedi-Ogre, Vert, on a bend argent a
       battle-axe gules, for the same reasons.

   Mathaeus Blades. Badge. Argent estencely, a domestic cat sejant
   affronty sable.

       Conflict with Phoebe Saint Michael, Argent estencely, a cat
       couchant sable. There is only one CD for changing the posture of
       the cat.

   Nimenefeld, Canton of. Badge. (Fieldless) On a sun gules, a garb Or.

       The badge had a number of conflicts, of which some
       characteristic examples are listed here. In all cases, RfS
       X.4.j.ii does not apply to charges on suns because of the
       complex outline of the sun. Thus, there is no difference for
       changing the type only of tertiary charge. This thus conflicts
       with Boncueur, Ermine, on a sun gules a heart Or, with only a CD
       for fieldlessness. This also conflicts with Aelfred Halvdan of
       Holdene, Gyronny Or and azure, on a sun gules a lion's head
       cabossed Or, with the same conflict analysis. This also
       conflicts with Thomas-Edmund de Warrick, Gyronny argent and
       azure, on a mullet of eight points gules a wyvern passant Or.
       There is no difference between a sun and a mullet of eight
       points, so again, there is only one CD for fieldlessness.

   Reinhart Reinhold. Device. Azure, in pale an open book and a hand
   sustaining a mallet argent.

       The hand and the hammer are of equal visual weight, making the
       hammer a sustained co-primary charge. Thus, this armory has a
       single primary charge group consisting of three types of charge,
       which is in violation of RfS VIII.1.a.

   Subetai Nasan. Device. Per pale gules and sable, an Oriental dragon
   rampant breathing fire within an orle of lozenges Or.

       The dragon was blazoned as rampant but it is not in a blazonable
       posture. The body and tail form a 'u' shape. The head and
       forelimbs of the dragon are appropriate for a rampant dragon, on
       the dexter side of the 'u' shape. The hind legs are not planted
       on the ground as one would expect from a rampant animal. Instead
       they are displayed and issue from the sinister side of the 'u'
       shape. Since we cannot blazon this, it must be returned under
       RfS VII.7.b.

   Uilliam FitzHenry. Name.

       This name conflicts with William Henry (1774-1836), British
       chemist and formulator of Henry's Law, who has his own entry in
       the 1911 Encyclop{ae}dia Britannica.

       His armory has been registered under the holding name Uilliam of
       Nemenfeld.

   Ysabiau d'Augilhac. Device. Azure v{e^}tu argent, a catamount rampant
   between in cross four mullets Or.

       Conflict with Josephus Piscator, Argent, on a lozenge azure a
       compass star throughout Or. Ysabiau's submission is equivalent
       to Argent, on a lozenge throughout azure a catamount rampant
       between in cross four mullets Or. Thus, these must be compared
       as if both devices used lozenges. Under that interpretation,
       there is only one CD under RfS X.4.j for multiple changes to the
       tertiary charges.

Acceptances were reported earlier today, pended items will be reported

shortly.

In Service,

Gorm of Berra
Golden Dolphin Herald

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