[MR] Re: Secrecy

[Peters, Rise J.]

Why is it a good thing not to let the candidate know?  I've listened to folks from other kingdoms describing how they were able to plan for and anticipate their Laurel ceremonies.  I don't understand the rationale for Atlantia's tradition of secrecy, especially given the drawbacks.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elaine Koogler [mailto:ekoogler1 at comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:54 AM
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: [MR] Re: Secrecy
>
>
> I agree.  I was at a Baronial Investiture where one of my
> proteges was given
> a Golden Dolphin.  I knew she was getting the award, but
> understood that it
> would happen at the evening Court.  I was cooking the event,
> so did not
> attend the first Court in the morning.  Not only did my
> protege get her GD
> at that first Court, she also was made a Court Baroness!  I
> was right there,
> in the kitchen...and no one thought to come get me or Master
> Phillip!  I was
> not amused!
>
> I also missed seeing my lord Phillip get his Pearl...I had
> just returned
> from two weeks in England working, and was exhausted, so
> didn't go to the
> event...didn't know...was very unhappy!
>
> So yes, it's a good thing to not let the candidate know that
> they're getting
> a "cookie", but please, please...let friends and family know.
>
> Kiri
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Message: 2
> > From: "Rosine" <nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org>
> > To: "Merry Rose" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> > Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 10:08:51 -0400
> > Subject: [MR] Secrecy
> >
> > Since I need to test this addy and it's subscription, I
> need a subject. So
> > here's one:
> >
> > Secrecy
> >
> >    We have a couple in our barony - one more high-profile than their
> > partner. The High Profile member has now been awarded Kingdom-level
> > recognition three times... and in each case, the Beloved
> Other was not
> awar=
> > e
> > that the award was going to be given. Twice The Other
> skipped the event in
> > order to work/do labs at school (but could have made arrangements to
> > attend), and once was volunteering in an area too far away
> from where
> Court
> > was being held. In all those times, their Baron and
> Baroness were present
> > but unaware of the impending award. I have heard similar
> tales about other
> > S.Os. and Peers whose squires/protogees/apprentices were awarded
> > planned-in-advance honors with no head's up to anyone who
> could have made
> > sure that friends and family were present while still
> keeping it secret.
> >    I think we have lost something important in our quest
> for the thrill of
> > surprise - we've lost our concern for the friends and family of the
> honoree=
> > .
> > And I *don't* think that it's something we can lay on the
> shoulders of our
> > Royals - every territorial baron and baroness, every Order
> principal,
> every
> > court herald - every person who helps out by filling in names on a
> scroll -
> > each of those folks should be carrying an awareness that
> half of the joy
> of
> > personal recognition is in seeing the happiness in one's
> loved-one's eyes,
> > to be able to go back to one's friends and get the acclaim,
> the pat of the
> > back, the hugs of joy while still clutching their shiny scroll.
> >    So count this as a reminder, to all of us, that there's
> a large body of
> > people who can assist our King and Queen (and Baron and
> Baronesses) in
> > making sure that stories like the one I related above are
> not the norm in
> > this Kingdom any longer.
> >
> > In service,
> > Hr=F3=F0ny Rognvaldsdottir
> > (that would be "Rosine of Rowanwald", only better)
> > --
> > "Has it escaped your memory that Manfred's violences to
> women opened the
> wa=
> > y
> > to this Kingdom for you?. . . Let me remind you, Oh King,
> that it was very
> > glorious to have conquered Manfred but far more glorious to conquer
> oneself=
> > .
> > Therefore, do you, who have to correct others, conquer
> yourself and curb
> > this appetite, and do not spoil what you have gloriously
> acquired with
> such
> > a stain." - The Decameron,  by Boccaccio
> >
> >
> >
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