[MR] courtesy to ladies

[E L Wimett]

I am not surprised by this report, as I have frequently noted similar 
instances over the last 20+ years in several kingdoms.

However, I have to differ with Jared on one important point:

The gender of those struggling with their gear is (or should be) 
irrelevant.  As a matter of simple courtesy and honor, we should assist 
others in need whatever their gender and whatever our own.

When I am struggling to move the gear for a heraldic consult table and am 
hindered by physical limitations that sometimes come upon me due to age, 
arthritis and/or the resurgence of past injuries, I do not care if someone 
who helps me is male or female.  And, when I am not so hindered, if I see 
someone large and male who obviously has more than he can carry, I feel 
bound in honor and courtesy to offer to help.  (Sometimes the more 
foolishly macho males will turn me down, but that is their problem, not 
mine and I feel the obligations of honor and courtesy have been satisfied!)

Alisoun

On Monday, September 03, 2001 9:45 PM, Jerry Wellner 
[SMTP:ldjared at hotmail.com] wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I rarely post to this list as rarely I have anything that I feel is worth 

> taking up the time of the masses who read this list, however recently I
> received a report that upset me enough that I felt I should say 
something. I
> was informed that at a recent event where parking was a vast distance 
from
> cabin camping facilities a group of ladies, unescorted by respective 
lords
> had a large amount of gear. These ladies made 4 trips from their van to
> their cabin at the onset of the event and 4 trips at the end of the event 
to
> return said gear to their vehicle. Growing up in the SCA, I was raised to 

> hold certain behaviors to be inviolate, and one of these is that a lady
> unless by vocal choice should never be forced to carry such loads, that
> there should at an SCA event /Always/ be enough gentlemen that ladies do 
not
> have to do these things. Yet these three ladies, one a landed Baroness of 

> this kingdom Passed several men, one of their own local area, and one a 
peer
> of this kingdom. Perhaps it is the fact that I have never known a life
> outside the SCA that makes this seem almost offensive to what I feel our
> society represents. To me this is a cornerstone of our behavior and
> courtesy. If I am wrong please feel free to tell me so.. however I feel
> confidant that this is not the case. To me every lady deserves to be 
treated
> with the honor, courtesy and dignity that I give to my own.. I would hope 

> that the gentlemen of this or any other kingdom would accord the same to 
any
> lady.
>
>      Forgive me any of your time I have wasted, I merely felt that a
> reminder was needed. Thank you.
>
>
> Ld Jared the Potter
>
>
>
>
>
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