[MR] Move Debates Off List?

Pat ogaullee at home.com
Sat Sep 15 17:18:39 PDT 2001


Your words are well chosen and I agree with you.

Maili O'Gaullee


> Lady Jocetta and others in the Tavern,
> 
> Those around you are your friends, your companions and
> your brothers & sisters-in-arms.  In any tragedy,
> people come together in their social groups to provide
> comfort and to discuss.  This week this country
> experienced a loss so great, that few have the
> emotional resources to deal with it.  That is one
> reason that people must be allowed to speak here.
> 
> The other is this.  This was no simple tragedy, no act
> of nature.  This was an act of war.  The concept of
> war on  our soil is so foreign that I am just now
> coming to grips with it.  There are no tanks in our
> streets, no enemy planes overhead, but it is war
> nonetheless.
> 
> Lords and ladies, we have been attacked.  We have lost
> a  grievous number of lives.  Right now our President
> is weighing options, and with the resources available
> to leaders of this country, his options are limited by
> only one thing:  and that is the people.
> 
> We as a country must come together, in the streets, in
> the office, at home and on this very list and decide
> now, going forward what we are willing to accept.  As
> it stands now, we are on a course where more blood
> will be shed to protect our freedom.  I for one have
> thought long and hard about this eventuality, and have
> decided that I am willing to see body bags coming off
> an Air Force plane.
> 
> Yesterday, President Bush was handed a badge of a
> fallen NY city police officer.  His grieving widow had
> only just in the last hour hear of her husbands death.
>  I hope that President Bush lays that badge on his
> desk.  I hope that anytime he is tired, any time his
> resolve is weakened, that he look to that badge, as we
> look to our flag now.
> 
> You say it is loud here.  It should be my lady.  It
> should be.  Discussion in all venues is what turns
> anger into resolve.  We will need this resolve in the
> months, and perhaps  years to come.  Lady Jocetta,
> give the tavern time.  It will quiet down, but now is
> not that time.  Now bold speeches must be given, the
> souls of men and women must be touched, for in this
> country it is OUR will that propels war, and that will
> must be strong.
> 
> Cynwrig ap Rhys
> 
> 
> 
> --- Joyce Baldwin <jocetta at pobox.com> wrote:
> > Gentles,
> > 
> > While it has been wonderful to have this list as a
> > resource for support and 
> > information in these terrible days,  I feel that
> > perhaps this is not the 
> > most appropriate venue for debating on our country's
> > response to these 
> > awful events.
> > 
> > I'd like to request that these threads be continued
> > off list, if you would 
> > be so kind?  It's getting a bit noisier than usual
> > in here....
> > 
> > Lady Jocetta
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Joyce A. Baldwin
> > Top-Notch Vocal Trainer and Diva Extraordinaire
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> > Jocetta Thrushleigh
> > Quarterly Vert and Azure, three thrushes in bend,
> > Or.
> > Exchequer for the Canton of Buckston-on-Eno and
> > Deputy Exchequer for the 
> > Barony of Windmasters Hill in the Kingdom of
> > Atlantia
> > 
> > 
> > 
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