[MR] Fwd: Two deaths at Estrella from tent space-heater asphy xiation]

[negatlin at feddata.com]

I was there, and it is my understanding from the investigation done on site
that the authorities felt the heater may have been damaged. It was said that
it did not appear that the gas had been turned one and there was not sign
that it the heater had ever been lit. It was thought at the time (further
investigation continues) that these poor gentles were the victim of a leak
of some sort. This is a terrible tragedy and I hope that this will make us
all a bit more careful in the future. 

Princess Mary-Grace

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric J. Campbell [mailto:ejcampbe at unity.ncsu.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 2:46 PM
To: Aedan Aylwyn
Cc: Atlantian List
Subject: Re: [MR] Fwd: Two deaths at Estrella from tent space-heater
asphyxiation]


Just curious.  What type of propane heater was it. 
I use a catlytic heater from coleman that is "supposed" to be safe. I
don't trust it so I turn it off after a few minutes and my tent is warmed
up.  
I am investigating the option of buying a hotvent
http://www.zodi.com/2000/files/hotvent/hotvent.html which looks like the
safest way to heat your tent if used properly.

Thanks 
-Xavier


On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Aedan Aylwyn wrote:

> Sad greetings all,
> 
> I hate to be the spreader of bad news, but...  This came to me in a round
> about way from the SCA Chirurgeon's list.  Evidently 2 gentles attending
> Estrella War passed away this last weekend, after putting a propane
> heater inside their tent in an effort to keep warm.
> 
> While I know that we tend not to have camping events when the temperatures
> get that low, it is still a possibility.  I'd hate for one of us to make
the
> same fatal mistake.
> 
> Sadly,
> Aedan
> 
> >2/18/01 Ariz. Republic B2
> >2001 WL 8516868
> >The Arizona Republic
> >Copyright 2001 Phoenix Newspapers, Inc.
> >Sunday, February 18, 2001
> >
> >CARBON MONOXIDE SUSPECTED IN 2 DEATHS
> >
> >    Two campers died Saturday, the victims of possible carbon-
> >monoxide poisoning, after they were found in full cardiac arrest
> >inside their tent in the southeast Valley.
> >   The unidentified pair, a 35-year-old man and a 27-year-old woman,
> >were pronounced dead at Valley Lutheran Hospital in Mesa, said Jeff
> >Stocker, a spokesman for Rural/Metro Corp.
> >    The victims were among a group of campers attending an event at
> >Schnepf Farms, near Rittenhouse and Combs roads, a popular
> >entertainment and concert site, Stocker said. Authorities were called
> >after a friend checked the tent to find out why they hadn't gotten
> >up.
> >   Stocker said a propane heater was found inside the tent. The Pinal
> >County Sheriff's Office was investigating whether the deaths may be
> >linked to the heater.
> >   The bodies were taken to the Maricopa County Medical Examiner's
> >Office, where autopsies were pending.
> >
> > >From the Chi list:
> > > Sad news from Estrella.......
> > >
> > > Before anyone hears the rumors, I have just learned that, tragically,
> > > there
> > > were two deaths at Estrella.  This morning a man and a woman were
> > > found dead
> > > in their mundane ten as the result of a propane heater asphyxiation.
> > > I have
> > > it on good authority that they were not Meridians, but were local to
> > > Atenveldt. There was a moment of silence held in their honor during
> > > the war,
> > > and our hearts go out to their families.
> > >
> >
> > >>Greetings to All Good and Noble Members of the SCA,
> >
> > >>If you have not yet heard, two of our gentle cousins needlessly died
at
> >Estrella 2001.  They tried to keep warm by putting their propane heater
> >inside their mundane tent and were asphyxiated by the fumes.
> >
> >While we cannot inspect everyone's tents at wars, we hope that you will
take
> >
> >this opportunity to review the common sense rules for your household's
> >encampment, and discuss whether or not something is safe.  If you have
any
> >questions, please contact your Kingdom's Chirurgeon.  They should be able
to
> >
> >help or find a source for answers.
> >
> >Let our cousins' deaths alert us to the real-life dangers from simple
> >appliances which we take for granted...
> 
> ----------
> Baron Aedan Aylwyn, Provost                     Caer Mear, Atlantia
> Email: aedan at mindspring.com                     Royal Bad Influence -
Retired
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