[MR] Re: *WH* A&S competition question
Marybeth Lavrakas
katrous at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 30 10:21:16 PDT 2001
Public, private--the responses can be either. I'm
just thrilled I'm getting feedback!
KR
--- Becky McEllistrem <bmcellis at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Poster: Becky McEllistrem <bmcellis at yahoo.com>
> Boy there's a subject that could spawn huge amounts
> of
> debate. Did you want these answers sent privately
> or
> publicly. If we start a big public debate it could
> be
> something that fills up inboxes for days.
>
> For the main questions: I often note that those
> asking
> for anonymous entries are folks who have felt some
> unfairness in judging and feel that anonymous
> entries
> would have created needed fairness. Unfortunately
> for
> those who feel unfairness I don't believe anonymous
> entries work either.
>
> Speaking as a scribing judge, I can say that
> experienced judges often prefer a chance to talk to
> entrants personally and offer constructive advice in
> a
> more open fashion rather than trying to hide names.
>
> I can say that when I managed the last scroll
> competition for Their Majesties, we got rid of the
> forms completely and used a simple ranking system.
> Many judges dislike the standard Atlantian forms
> (although not all) because they have a hard time
> understanding categories and don't tend to think in
> terms of categories. Plus there's often too many
> times where several categories might be n/a,
> possibly
> giving that entry a lower number.
>
> When we did the formless judging for the scroll
> comopetition, cards were placed by each entry and
> the
> judges had lots more time than normal for
> constructive
> commenting. (Ya know - something a little more than
> "nice job" so that artisans could hear about where
> they should concentrate efforts next.)
>
> I hope I don't spawn too much controversy as they
> weren't meant to be inflammatory but you're finding
> a
> subject near and dear to my heart. If you'd like
> further details about possible formless judging
> systems that are fair and constructive please let me
> know. We can continue this conversation privately.
>
> Rebecca the Contrary
>
>
> --- Marybeth Lavrakas <katrous at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Poster: Marybeth Lavrakas <katrous at yahoo.com>
> > (Please cross-post to other Atlantian lists.)
> >
> > Greetings Atlantia,
> >
> > I am currently working on the criteria for the
> > cometitions that will be held at Kingdom A&S
> > Festival
> > in March. This includes taking a hard look at our
> > judging forms, comparing them to what other
> kingdoms
> > use and deciding what changes we might want to
> try.
> >
> > Allowing for more space on the form for written
> > comments seems to be one good idea. If anyone has
> > other ideas, please do not hesitate to pass them
> > along
> > either by email or snail mail.
> >
> > And I have one specific question I'd like to hear
> > people's opinions on: Should entries be anonymous
> > or
> > not? Do you think it matters one way or another
> > that
> > judges and the viewing public know the name of the
> > artisan who created a specific item?
> >
> > Thanks to all.
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Lady Kateryn Rous, KMoAS
> > Companion of the Pearl
> > House Broussard
> > Windmasters' Hill
> >
> > Vigilo et exspecto
> >
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