[Archers] Fwd: Period-style Nock Questions

[Garth Groff and Sally Sanford]

Noble Friends,

Here is Sir John's answer to my query about the Vermil nocks. Yes, at the
moment the "V" and "M" glue-on nocks are illegal for period shoots, though
the inserted nocks in cane or bamboo shafts do meet the rules.

You can bet I will be following up on this in the future.

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆

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From: John Edgerton <sirjon1 at pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Period-style Nock Questions
To: Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000 at gmail.com>


Greetings and my apologies for the delay.

My original intent was for the rules to allow any nock that had the
appearance of a period nock. However, this was changed by the then target
archery deputy. Who deleted the following.

"3: Modern plastic black, white or brown nocks may be used if they have the
appearance of or have been modified to resemble a period style nock.  Any
indexing ridge shall be filed flat. "

In my opinion any nock that has the appearance of a period nock should be
excepted. However, it would be reasonable for the range marshal to request
documentation showing similar period nocks.

The previous SCA deputy for target archery has finally retired after twelve
years. I have not yet been able to find out who has replaced her. When you
learn who the new deputy is, I suggest that you contact them with your
question.  The deputy would be the only one to be able to make a final
decision on this.

Please let me know if I may be of further assistance.

Jon



On Jul 1, 2018, at 3:07 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <
mallardlodge1000 at gmail.com> wrote:

Sir John Fitz-Rauf, Greetings.

My friend and fellow period archer Lord Naran have been discussing the new
Vermil series of period-style nocks on Atlantia's Target Archery board.
These are plastic replicas of historic Asian steppe and Chinese nocks:
https://www.vermilarchery.com/collections/nock-series .

We carefully read the new period rules which (IIRC) you had a major role in
drafting. The rule covering nocks says, "Nocks shall be either self or
reinforced self, or period style insert nocks, for wood, bamboo or reed
arrows. They may be of any materials that are similar in appearance to
period materials and also similar in style." This rule excludes glue-on
nocks, which I suspect was done to prevent the use of modern-style nocks on
arrows in the period category.

Lord Naran and I have both agree that a literal interpretation forbids the
use of the Vermil glue-on "M" and "V" styles, as they are applied outside
to a tapered shaft the same manner as modern nocks. OTOH, the
insert-mounted nocks of the same external outline would be perfectly legal
in reed or bamboo arrows. The the style or materials are not in question
here, but only the method of mounting.

It would seem that these period glue-on nocks came on the market since the
SCA rules were approved in 2016. I suspect they would have been approved
had they been known to you and the other senior archers who wrote those
rules.

Both of us have a great interest in using these glue-on nocks in period
shoots (we know they are legal for the open category). We are also both
advocates for period shooting, we frequently teach classes on period
archery, and Lord Naran regularly runs period shoots in Atlantia and at
Pennsic. Thus it is vital for us to have the correct information on these
nocks.

Your comments on this matter would be greatly appreciated and will be
shared with Atlantia's archers.

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆
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