[Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 141, Issue 16
Jamie Frailey
jjfrailey at gmail.com
Mon Jun 22 10:09:09 PDT 2015
Janyn, well said.
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> 1. Incident at Stierbach Baronial Birthday (jaynardone at comcast.net)
> 2. Re: St. Sebastian's V Shoot at Pennsic (Jessica Mulligan)
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> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:45:07 +0000 (UTC)
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> Subject: [Archers] Incident at Stierbach Baronial Birthday
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> Good afternoon my Esteemed Brothers and Sisters of the Bow. I write you
> today with a heavy heart and great sadness over an incident that occurred
> at the event last weekend on the Archery range. I had to take a step back
> myself for a few hours before I wrote this to assure that I am not
> conveying emotion but rather fact myself. Also when these things occur I
> like to approach them like the NTSB at an accident, (okay stop laughing at
> the geeky engineer :P ) Unfortunately this was no accident, accidents are
> something that occur out of our control and unfortunately in this case the
> "out of their control" was very much in their control but for whatever
> reasons, didnt work out the best way.
>
> There are a few areas I want to touch on in this note so I will take them
> one at a time to be as clear as I possibly can....
>
> 1. It seems an archer was upset with the design of the shoot and that
> their score was adversely effected because of the element of luck designed
> into the shoot. In giving them the benefit of the doubt that they were
> genuinely just very "passionate" about their position or just having a "bad
> day" they lost sense of reality and ended up berating the MIC and other
> MiT's and archers who were in range of the shouting on the range. This
> makes me think of two points here:
>
> A.) If anyone (archers, marshals, etc...) has an issue with the shoot
> design you have two simple choices. Dont shoot, go do something else or
> deal with it and shoot. We are all out there (or should be) for one reason,
> FUN! Yes many of us are competitive, hey you wont find someone else more
> competitive than me, but I would never ruin someone's or a group's fun over
> something so silly as my score unless I found blatant cheating or cause
> that effected my score, which was not the case here. I know some archers
> don't like the introduction of "chance" into a shoot design, but I know
> many of us welcome it and actually think it is a refreshing break to the
> outcome. It is the very reason I chose D&D for this year's SSB shoot, it
> allows archers to use their skills but their scores can change drastically
> simply based on a dice roll. I gave up 40 points on one target because I
> shot 4 different slots that were zero's, oh well that was my choice to
> shoot those spots not the shoot designer!
>
>
> B.) Okay point "B", if there is an incident like this on the range you as
> MIC, marshal, MiT, etc don't and shouldn't handle it alone. While these
> incidents are very very rare, this is only the 2nd I remember since I
> joined in 2007, and I thank you all for that; they do occur. Once again at
> this event like the other, the DEM, EDEM and 2 or 3 regional's were all
> there on the range. I applaud my marshals for being strong enough to handle
> the issues but I and my staff cant help you if we don't know about it! Like
> most of these issues, I didnt know about it until I got contacted by a
> Count or two who are my friends but also concerned about their people. We
> have very straightforward rules for people who become combative, unruly or
> just out of control. I have zero tolerance for those actions and they would
> have been removed from the range immediately! So please if this ever occurs
> again (lets hope not!), simply ask the person to "Wait a minute" and send
> someone to get someone from t
> he Marshalette officer structure.
>
> Okay back to number one. This was uncalled for and had no business
> happening! Especially in public on the range in front of those who had to
> hear it's ugliness. In times when we are wondering why our numbers are
> dwindling, this is not the behavior to be conducting ourselves too
> accordingly. When I was welcomed into the Atlantia archery community years
> ago, it was a warm and friendly welcome. That is what Atlantia archery is!
> We are no drama, no whining and no haters, period!
>
> Okay enough of my soapbox, the SCA is a "Self policing" society and I know
> the Archery community has been very good at it in the past. I guess all I
> will say is something my Mother used to tell me, "that if you cant say
> anything nice, don't say anything at all!" Our shoot coordinators spend a
> great deal of time and money and effort to put these shoots on for us and I
> challenge you if you feel they are so wrong to put together a shoot the way
> you would like too and invite us all to participate in your shoot! I like
> the diversity of shoots we have in our Kingdom and the creativity of our
> archers and marshals and applaud them all.
>
> Now enough of the silliness, lets focus on positive energy and go have
> some fun!
>
> In Service,
>
> Janyn
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> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:51:33 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jessica Mulligan <slaoen at yahoo.com>
> To: Jay Nardone <jaynardone at comcast.net>,
> "archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org"
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> Subject: Re: [Archers] St. Sebastian's V Shoot at Pennsic
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> I'm not a new marshal, but I am newly pre-registered for Pennsic, so you
> can add me to the list of helping marshals.? :)
> Sanada Katsumi
>
> From: Jay Nardone <jaynardone at comcast.net>
> To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Archers] St. Sebastian's V Shoot at Pennsic
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> div.yiv9106027317WordSection1 {}#yiv9106027317 Okay well I was busted,
> seems COG pays attention more than I thought and caught me listi
> ng him twice?. Come on MiTs and new Marshals, we need you! ?In Service,
> ?Janyn ? ?
>
> From: Archers [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On
> Behalf Of Jay Nardone
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 5:52 PM
> To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: [Archers] St. Sebastian's V Shoot at Pennsic ?Okay well you guys
> rock, but you already knew that didn?t you? So after a few more messages we
> are now in what I call the ?safe? zone for both targets and marshals. It
> takes at least 27 marshals to run the shoot and we always try to have
> around 13 stations. As of today with all of your help, we are now at 15
> stations and 29 marshals. I would like to have a few more marshals to
> assure everyone except me gets to shoot the event. So I am putting the
> challenge out there to our MiT?s and new marshals, if you are going to
> Pennsic, please help out your Kingdom and all of the others that continue
> year after year to help out. Also there are still a few of you that have
> not gotten me your target info, I need it by midnight this Friday or you
> will be providing your own station cards? ?In Service, ?Janyn ?
> | Number of Marshal's | Name of Marshal's helping | | Targets Bringing |
> | Comments | |
> | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
> | 1 | | | Janyn Fletcher | | | Yes (2) | | | MIC of Event | |
> | 2 | | | Seamus McRay | | | Yes (2) | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 3 | | | Godai Katsunaga | | | Yes | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 4 | | | Nichola Blackwell | | | Yes | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 5 | | | Enequy | | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 6 | | | Ghijskijn | | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 7 | | | Saphir | | | | Yes | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 8 | | | Christophe of Grey | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 9 | | | Lorelei | | | | Yes | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 10 | | | Allen of Wolfhou | | | Yes | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 11 | | | Karin Taylor de Cameron | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 12 | | | Martelle | | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 13 | | | Cameron de Grey | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 14 | | | Colum | | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 15 | | | Damiana Morena | | | Yes | | | Helping Marshal (MiT) |
> | 16 | | | Marco Di Varona | | | Yes | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 17 | | | John the Brewer | | | Yes | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 18 | | | Katarzyna Witkowska | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 19 | | | Esa | | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 20 | | | Ronan Mac Imair | | | | | | Helping Marshal (MiT) |
> | 21 | | | Jonathan Bowman | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 22 | | | Tala az-Zahra/Rachel | | | | | Helping Marshal (MiT) |
> | 23 | | | Kryss Kostarev | | | Yes | | | | | |
> | 24 | | | Miles de Lockwode | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 25 | | | Grimm | | | | Yes | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 26 | | | Christophe of Grey | | | | | | Helping Marshal | |
> | 27 | | | | | | | | | | | | |
> | 28 | | | | | | | | | | | | |
>
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Jamie Frailey
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