[Archers] Fwd: [SCA Kingdom of Atlantia ] I've finished my album o f Atlantian heraldry. It...

[deallac at juno.com]

CoG, Thanks for the additional information.  I didn't mean to sound as if I was suggesting that the YB would cover all of this, I just thought thatthe Trimaran proposal sounded a bit like a non-polling variant.  I don't have a problem with (re)starting the Guild, and definitely as a non-pollinggroup (that's what guilds are supposed to be, after all), but there doesseem to be some voting in the Trimaran proposal for moving folksfrom member to Provost.  It's a start, and maybe it is somethingthat we can run with.  The only concern I had with the Trimaran proposal was that in one part it indicates that it would cover allof the missile arts (ta/ca/tw/s), but then goes on to say that skill in Archery was a requirement for Provost :) (sounds like it started forone, expanded, and didn't get fully wordsmithed :)) Wasn't the FB proposal something that was more Society wide, and notjust within a single group????   So many lists/pages get confusing :) Dealla 

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From: "John Atkins" <cogworks at triad.rr.com>
To: <deallac at juno.com>
Cc: <Jonathas at RedFoxDen.org>, <archers at atlantia.sca.org>
Subject: RE: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA Kingdom of Atlantia ] I've finished my album o f Atlantian heraldry. It...
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:32:24 -0400


Trimaris does have a Yewbow equivalent.  I think it’s called the Arc something or other.  I don’t know if it is a grant level award though.  This proposal, I believe, is NOT intended to be a voting order/guild.  IF, big if, Atlantia started something like this I would suggest it NOT be a voting order, but rather follow the construct of a guild.  That would be anyone who has an interest may join given limited requirements.  Within the structure individuals could work their way up via meeting increasingly higher standards and voted on by those at that level.  The top of the heap would be the Yewbow.  But a structure like this would provide a “learning ground” for individuals newly interested in what the guild represents, target archery, combat archery, TW, siege.  I could see a structure like this leading the way to my post on FB about attempts to be more period in equipment and garb.  My disclaimer for those not on the FB list, is that I find it somewhat distressing that I’m seeing more and more folks, mostly at Pennsic, who are using equipment marginally period and garb that has no if any relationship to what may have been worn in period by ANY culture.  I offer Nikes, black jeans, sleeveless shirt and modern cotton hat.  Contrast that representation with Naran the Atlantian Mongol!  While I don’t expect everyone to be period head to toe I would like to see a more serious attempt at some form of periodness.  I’ll grant Pennsic casual at any event with limits.
 
I am NOT a period Nazi but I do have this strange concept that you should be able to look at someone and make a somewhat educated guess as to what period and culture they are portraying.  Rabbit fur bikinis with fox tails off the butt don’t quite fit that goal.  I think a guild as proposed would provide the “lead by example” structure that would encourage folks to try harder.
 
Lots of opinions,
CJg
 
From: deallac at juno.com [mailto:deallac at juno.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 12:13 PM
To: cogworks at triad.rr.com
Cc: Jonathas at RedFoxDen.org; archers at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA Kingdom of Atlantia ] I've finished my album o f Atlantian heraldry. It...
 

Cog,
 
Does Trimaris currently have any equivalent to the YewBow?  This proposal
seems to be like a non-polling version of the it (and the terminology
seems to be very WhiteScarf'ish (Provosts and Free Scholars) :))
 
Dealla

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From: "John Atkins" <cogworks at triad.rr.com>
To: "'Jonathas'" <Jonathas at RedFoxDen.org>, <archers at atlantia.sca.org>
Subject: Re: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA Kingdom of Atlantia ] I've finished my album of Atlantian heraldry. It...
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:16:11 -0400
Nope.  Attached is an missile guild proposal for Trimaris.  Something to consider?
 
CJ
 
From: Archers [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Jonathas
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 10:58 AM
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA Kingdom of Atlantia ] I've finished my album of Atlantian heraldry. It...
 
Did anyone know Atlantia had an Archer's Guild???  Apparently there was at some point, and it even has heraldry registered!!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=672142516194548&set=a.671620349580098.1073741831.100001964179712&type=1&theater
Jonathas
 
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Etienne Le Mons
12:45am Aug 18 
I've finished my album of Atlantian heraldry. It should include all items registered to Atlantia or any branch within Atlantia. Note: This does include defunct groups that still have items registered (like the Barony of Myrkewood for example). There are a few that I don't know what they're for... Feel free to comment :-)
https://www.facebook.com/etienne.le.mons/media_set?set=a.671620349580098.1073741831.100001964179712&type=3

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