[Archers] Ymir & Archery

[Andrew Johnson]

I know in some kingdoms a movement is under way to, as someone already
suggested, create a sort of "MIC testing process" or even requiring anyone
that aspires to be MIC for large events to have more than one marshalet
under their belt.

Andres



On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Ivarr <thaduck at earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> I also believe that if you are going to be MIC of an event, you need to
>  be versed in all the disciplines that are going to be there. If not you
> should get with the marshals and go over their rules to get an
> understanding.
>
> I am currently a Rapier Marshal and an Archery Marshal  in the Barony of
> Marinus.I have also taken the classes for heavy , CA, and Seage.
>
>  I have also planned and run the Atlatl battles at Pennsic with no
> problems of trust from the MIC of Pennsic.  If the MIC from
>
> another kingdom can trust someone from out of his own then we have a real
> problem if our MIC's cannot trust their kingdom  marshals.
>
>
>
> Ivarr
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Kinnie **
> Sent: Jan 26, 2013 12:49 PM
> To: 'John Atkins' **, 'Jay Nardone' **
> Cc: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org, 'Martha Fletcher' **
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Ymir & Archery
>
> I believe that Otto had said something about this at Unevent, basically a
> separate qualification for MIC's. Janyn and I both thought it would be a
> good idea and is something that would benefit the Kingdom.
>
>
>
> As a marshal, I have attended the Armored 101, Armored 201, Siege 101 and
> of
> course Archery 101 and Combat Archery 101 classes.
>
> Having a working knowledge of all SCA marshal activities will just makes us
> a better marshal and should be required for MIC.
>
>
>
> I sent Gaston, the MIC at Yimr, a polite message suggesting that he read
> the
> rules for all marshal activities and included the link to the Archery
> Handbook as a bonus.
>
>
>
> Godai
>
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> _____
>
> From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of John
> Atkins
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:02 PM
> To: Jay Nardone
> Cc: **; Martha Fletcher
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Ymir & Archery
>
>
>
> OK a proposal/subject I brought up to Janyn privately but do here now in
> the
> hopes that our numbers, and those among us with more horsepower in this
> club, may actually get implemented. I suggest 2 levels of marshal warrant.
> Level 1 is a warrant in one activity be it heavy, rapier or archery,
> whatever else. Level 2 is a warrant in an activity BUT the individual has
> attended marshal classes for heavy, equestrian and archery. These 3 as
> heavy would include specifics for rapier. Archery as it would include
> thrown weapons. And equestrian just 'cuz they are so different. A level 2
> warrant would mean that individual is at least familiar with the specific
> needs of all activities that may occur at an event. Therefore only a level
> 2 warranted individual could MIC an event. Yes, it adds a layer to the
> marshal program. And yes, not everyone will want to go through the process.
> But it would get rid of these marshals with 15 years MIC experience who no
> nothing about anything that does not occur on the heavy battle field. And
> in my opinion ANY MIC of this nature is a major liability in and of
> themselves!
>
>
>
> Cog
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:17 AM, "Jay Nardone" ** wrote:
>
> Mistress Martelle, you captured my point exactly. This is what really got
> me
> among the other silliness. It doesn't have to be Archery it could have been
> rapier, brewing, etc. I just cant get my head around how one person can
> derail a complete Marshallate, I just don't see the effectiveness of that?
> I
> understand I am a cheerleader for archery, but since I approve or
> disapprove
> all warrants in our discipline, how do I get pushed aside when that
> decision
> needs to be made? Can you spell dysfunctional?
>
>
>
> I applaud everyone's passion, it is the reason I enjoy archery as much as I
> do in this Kingdom. You are all true friends and we will not be divided by
> foolish things!
>
>
>
> Janyn
>
>
>
>
>
> From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Martha
> Fletcher
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: [Archers] Ymir & Archery
>
>
>
> 40+ paying slots is a big block to disinfranchise.
>
> If he's such an experienced MIC, as he claims, he damn well SHOULD be
> experienced with the archery community by now.
>
> Marshall-In-Charge means just that, you are in charge and the buck stops at
> you if anyone has an issue and you had BETTER have answers about any
> marshall activity at the event you are in charge of. Relying so heavily on
> the marshalls that you won't have an activity because you don't trust many
> people to run them is a problem in your supervisory skills. MIC's don't
> have
> to know everything but they should know a lot.
>
> Telling the Kingdom DEM, no thank you I don't trust you or anyone you may
> suggest to me to run an archery range either, is a problem.
>
> yours,
> Martelle
>
>
>
>
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