[Archers] Ymir question

[Janyn Fletcher]

I knew this would eventually come up and I am actually shocked it took this
long :P

 

Some of you might not know that archery at Ymir this year was canceled by
the MIC. When I was first made aware of this about a week and a half ago, I
posted inquiring why this was the case. I was also given some direct
information from some of the marshal's that have run archery in years past.
I will keep this generic for discussion sake. I was first told that the MIC
canceled archery "due to lack of interest." His words..This is what really
got the hair on the back of my neck to stand up, and I also posted about
this because I didn't believe this for a second! As I dug into the situation
I found out that the MIC who started the conversation with "I have been MIC
for the last 15 years." admitted that he only trusted a handful of marshals
to run archery and those few were unavailable. 

 

I respectfully posted back that I was the DEM for TA in Atlantia and all of
my marshals are "trusted" by me or they would not be marshals. The response
was something nonsensical like "these are live fire ranges." Which had me
scratching my head because all of our ranges are live fire ranges. I posted
back to that effect and there was no movement. I believe at that point
Saphir graciously offered to round up some marshal's so the activity could
continue. A few days passed and the MIC posted that after failing to contact
anyone he trusted, he decided to cancel the activity. I once again posted
and frankly I was not happy. I posted that this should never happen in
Atlantia and I was going to take it to the Kingdom. A challenge was posted
back to me to do what I needed  to do.

 

I sent a message to Sir Otto our Earl Marshal and sent the message trail to
him as well. He responded these words:

 

 

It is sad that Master Gaston cannot find an acceptable MiC for Target
Archery.

Regardless of the outcome, Master Gaston has the responsibility to find MICs
that are mutually acceptable to him, the group's seneschal and the event's
autocrat. 

There is nothing that my office can do force an event to hold archery (or
any specific martial activity for that matter.) Your point of appeal for
this year's Ymir would be to go to either the autocrat, Lady Dyrfinna
Frevithadottir or to the group's seneschal, Lord Adelric Falke and make your
case to them. I have included them in this reply.

 

To help for future years, maybe you can work with Master Gaston to instill a
greater degree of confidence in the other capable target archery marshals
that we have avalible.

 

YiS,

Otto

 

I am just dumbfounded and frankly at a loss for words that a (any) MIC can
overrule the DEM of the Kingdom and even more so that it was turned around
on me to make this person "more comfortable." I never heard a word from the
Autocrat which really owns the event and this MIC works for. 

 

I wanted to write the King and Queen but after discussion with my deputy and
past DEM's it was decided it was probably not wise. 

 

I am still upset over this situation as it is a real slap in my face and the
archery communities face collectively. I never made this personal and simply
felt it was my job to not take this quietly. Somehow I think I have gotten
myself in a pinch once again simply because I am passionate and active in
our community. I'm really wondering what the effectively of my office is if
we can be over ruled by pretty much everyone?

 

I believe there is strength in numbers and if this offends you, I would
encourage you all to make it known. Safety is ALWAYS our number one concern
and the decision of who provides that safety and how should come from the
activity Marshallate, which I was never given the chance to do. 

 

I will promise you all that I will try to not let this type of thing happen
again but without support I don't see how I can be effective to do so? I'm
sorry I have let you all down!

 

In Service,

 

Janyn 

 

 

 

From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Charles
Sprouse
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:42 PM
To: Archery List
Subject: [Archers] Ymir question

 

So, random question....  

 

Am I the only one who was totally toked to finally get to go to Ymir this
year and now am not going at all because they couldn't find "an archery
marshal the MIC could trust with such an inherently dangerous activity"??

 

KvK

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