[Archers] Atl-atl discussion and rules

[Siegfried]

If you have it, a piece of cardboard on the back ... really helps
longevity of this target.  as it keeps the foam from 'cone coring' (if
you know what I mean) upon impact.

Siegfried


On 8/6/13 9:51 PM, Jonathas wrote:
> I have a 122 made up as Siegfried suggested. A 4x8 sheet of foam cut in
> half, doubled up, and the target taped on.  I will gladly bring it to
> the Lochmere Arrow shoot if some of the atlatl throwers (and some of the
> new throwers) would like to give it a try.
> 
> (Someone please remind me of this when we get closer!)
> 
> Jonathas
> 
> On Aug 6, 2013 6:45 PM, "Jay Nardone" <jaynardone at comcast.net
> <mailto:jaynardone at comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Okay good discussions, let's keep them going. So it sounds like we
>     need to
>     come to agreement on the target size between the 80 and 122. Again
>     Im not
>     interesting in making it so hard that it runs folks off or so easy
>     it isn't
>     fun. I know we in Bright Hills could accommodate the 80cm with the
>     current
>     butts we have, as Master Siegfried said the 122's would take some
>     effort to
>     accommodate but Im liking the increased chances for beginners. I
>     know again
>     as a beginner they won't make much difference for me. :)
> 
> 
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
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>     [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>     <mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>] On Behalf Of
>     Siegfried
>     Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 5:59 PM
>     To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>     <mailto:archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Archers] Atl-atl discussion and rules
> 
>     Reyne, let me give a couple counter-thoughts (as an atlatl-thrower,
>     but not
>     'seasoned')
> 
>     >    An 80cm target face (thanks,
>     > Siegfried) should be fine.
> 
>     The bigger problem I see with this (though otherwise fine idea).  Is
>     that
>     it's going to be a bit harder to handle an 80cm.  80cm on the
>     ground, looks
>     small, and hurts people's backs ;)  You'd ideally want an 80cm to be
>     elevated.  But our 'usual' stands and butts won't hold a target the
>     size of
>     an 80cm.
> 
>     >  Having shot at a 120cm target, I can tell you, it's huge, and people
>     > might have trouble accommodating it.
> 
>     Other than transportation (truck needed for back), it's actually easier,
>     IMO, to create a quick butt for a 122cm, and plop it on the ground.
>      And the
>     size of it is designed to really 'sit on the ground' anyway.
> 
>     So, my counter-thought is:  Given the two options, the 80cm will
>     take some
>     effort in creating custom holders/stands/butts to accomodate.  But
>     the 122cm
>     is easy to throw foam behind and stick on the ground.  So actually,
>     the 122
>     is 'easier'  (In a weird way, I grant you)
> 
>     >  It'd be
>     > a whole lot easier to hit, certainly, but is that really the purpose
>     > of a RR?
> 
>     Yes.  In a way.  The purpose of a RR, is to be able to gauge your
>     skill, and
>     gauge your continual improvement of the skill.
> 
>     To that end, it doesn't behoove us to have a set of rules/equipment,
>     that
>     encourage, for example, scores of '0'.  With a bow, at 20yards, and
>     a days
>     worth of training ... an archer can score a non-zero RR.  They now
>     have a
>     baseline to watch their growth.
> 
>     a 122cm target for atl-atl, should provide the same, that a 'days
>     training'
>     person can score, a non-0 round.  And then watch their score grow as
>     their
>     skill does.
> 
>     Yet, hopefully never quite reach that pinnicle of the 'perfect score'.
> 
>     80cm increases the chance of someone being 'stuck' at 0 for a while, and
>     potentially losing hope / frustration rising that they can't 'ever get
>     better'.
> 
>     Siegfried
> 
> 
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