[Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 103, Issue 9

Thu Apr 5 12:15:16 PDT 2012

I would like to compliment Janyn for starting a very positive and active dialog. I would also like to thank her Majesty for her wonderful perspective and wisdom.

Everyone will always have an opinion about how to measure a good archer vs hard working archer. I think the long an short of this dialog is, we should measure an archers Passion. Is the candidate contributing to the spirit of Atlantian Archery. Forget if the archer can knock the center out of any given target. Is that individual passionate about his/her skill and willing to learn/share to/from others. I do have to say that the highly skilled and high scoring archers catch peoples attention.

Wow I love archery . . . 

So happy holidays to all of you. Be safe and have fun.

Lord Seamus McRay
(trapped indoors today)

On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:00 PM, archers-request at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org wrote:

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> This is why we need to recommend archers for awards like the opal and the coral branch, as we know their talents in those areas.
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> My 2 cents.? 
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> Kat
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>> ________________________________
>> From: John Atkins <cogworks at triad.rr.com>
>> To: 'Garth Groff' <ggg9y at virginia.edu>; archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Archers] Recommendation
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>> "Few of us are every likely to earn an Opal..."? I would fundamentally
>> disagree with this.? Individuals often receive Opals for service in a
>> specific area.? I believe the reason not many archers, or rapier, or heavy
>> have received Opals is because we all are too closely linked to the activity
>> and our efforts are thus seen as benefiting only that group of individuals
>> instead of "service to the kingdom".? And thus, for archery, we are
>> considered "only" for Missilier or Yewbow (other arguments aside).? But, if
>> I may use an example, Janyn's efforts in taking the lead for the St.
>> Sebastian Shoot at Pennsic last year and then again this year.? Does this
>> effort not bring a very positive light to the Kingdom of Atlantia?? Would
>> that not be perceived as "service to the Kingdom"?? I believe it would.? I
>> don't believe, regardless of the personal trauma Janyn undergoes leading
>> this effort, that a once a year great effort would merit an Opal.? But in
>> the case of Janyn that is hardly the case.? I only mention the St. Sebastian
>> shoot because of its SCA wide positive effect.? But service is service, be
>> it to the scribal community, laying out the hospitality table at events,
>> being the autocrat who never rests, whatever.? It's all service and it is up
>> to us to write the recommendations and bring these folks to the attention of
>> those who can recognize them.? I would add that one major problem with the
>> archery community is that we are too often stuck in the back 40 and totally
>> out of sight.? Not like the heavies and rapier who get to "do their thing"
>> in front of the populace.? All the more reason we should be vigilant and
>> write those recommendations for service awards as well as our activity
>> awards.
>> 
>> cog
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>> [mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Garth Groff
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:27 PM
>> To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>> Subject: Re: [Archers] Recommendation
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>> Noble Friends of the Bow,
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>> I must agree with Lord Christophe and Lady Esperanza. Entrance into the
>> Missliers and Yew Bow ranks should include some sort of proficiency with
>> their chosen weapon. These orders are about archery, not administration. 
>> That said, I would expect that any candidate to have also made some
>> contributions to the archery community through teaching, marshaling, running
>> a tournament, etc. Few of us are ever likely to earn an Opal or whatever,
>> but our two orders are our own way recognizing our members and are good
>> incentives to practice and share.
>> 
>> Yours Aye,
>> 
>> 
>> Mungo
>> 
>> On 4/5/2012 11:34 AM, lady_esperanza at cox.net wrote:
>>> Service to Archery is Service. I know of a few archers that have Opal's
>> for service to Archery. I'm not saying that you have to be a great archer to
>> get a Kings Missilier but in my mind they should "distinguish themselves by
>> their effort with bow and arrow." or at least trying to.
>>> 
>>> Esperanza
>>> 
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