<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I would like to compliment Janyn for starting a very positive and active dialog. I would also like to thank her Majesty for her wonderful perspective and wisdom.<div><br></div><div>Everyone will always have an opinion about how to measure a good archer vs hard working archer. I think the long an short of this dialog is, we should measure an archers Passion. Is the candidate contributing to the spirit of Atlantian Archery. Forget if the archer can knock the center out of any given target. Is that individual passionate about his/her skill and willing to learn/share to/from others. I do have to say that the highly skilled and high scoring archers catch peoples attention.</div><div><br></div><div>Wow I love archery . . . </div><div><br></div><div>So happy holidays to all of you. Be safe and have fun.</div><div><br></div><div>Lord Seamus McRay</div><div>(trapped indoors today)</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:00 PM, <a href="mailto:archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Send Archers mailing list submissions to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org<br><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>archers-owner@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Archers digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Recommendation (Katherine Hawkins)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:18:56 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: Katherine Hawkins <k_hawk_us@yahoo.com><br>To: John Atkins <cogworks@triad.rr.com>, 'Garth Groff'<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><ggg9y@virginia.edu>,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>"archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org"<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org><br>Subject: Re: [Archers] Recommendation<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><1333649936.3793.YahooMailNeo@web130201.mail.mud.yahoo.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>This is why we need to recommend archers for awards like the opal and the coral branch, as we know their talents in those areas.<br>?<br>My 2 cents.? <br>?<br>Kat<br><br>?<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: John Atkins <cogworks@triad.rr.com><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: 'Garth Groff' <ggg9y@virginia.edu>; archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:15 PM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [Archers] Recommendation<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"Few of us are every likely to earn an Opal..."? I would fundamentally<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">disagree with this.? Individuals often receive Opals for service in a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">specific area.? I believe the reason not many archers, or rapier, or heavy<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">have received Opals is because we all are too closely linked to the activity<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and our efforts are thus seen as benefiting only that group of individuals<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">instead of "service to the kingdom".? And thus, for archery, we are<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">considered "only" for Missilier or Yewbow (other arguments aside).? But, if<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I may use an example, Janyn's efforts in taking the lead for the St.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sebastian Shoot at Pennsic last year and then again this year.? Does this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">effort not bring a very positive light to the Kingdom of Atlantia?? Would<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that not be perceived as "service to the Kingdom"?? I believe it would.? I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">don't believe, regardless of the personal trauma Janyn undergoes leading<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">this effort, that a once a year great effort would merit an Opal.? But in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the case of Janyn that is hardly the case.? I only mention the St. Sebastian<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">shoot because of its SCA wide positive effect.? But service is service, be<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">it to the scribal community, laying out the hospitality table at events,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">being the autocrat who never rests, whatever.? It's all service and it is up<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to us to write the recommendations and bring these folks to the attention of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">those who can recognize them.? I would add that one major problem with the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">archery community is that we are too often stuck in the back 40 and totally<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">out of sight.? Not like the heavies and rapier who get to "do their thing"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in front of the populace.? All the more reason we should be vigilant and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">write those recommendations for service awards as well as our activity<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">awards.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">cog<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">[mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Garth Groff<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:27 PM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [Archers] Recommendation<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Noble Friends of the Bow,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I must agree with Lord Christophe and Lady Esperanza. Entrance into the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Missliers and Yew Bow ranks should include some sort of proficiency with<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">their chosen weapon. These orders are about archery, not administration. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">That said, I would expect that any candidate to have also made some<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">contributions to the archery community through teaching, marshaling, running<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a tournament, etc. Few of us are ever likely to earn an Opal or whatever,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">but our two orders are our own way recognizing our members and are good<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">incentives to practice and share.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Yours Aye,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Mungo<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 4/5/2012 11:34 AM, lady_esperanza@cox.net wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Service to Archery is Service. I know of a few archers that have Opal's<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for service to Archery. I'm not saying that you have to be a great archer to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">get a Kings Missilier but in my mind they should "distinguish themselves by<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">their effort with bow and arrow." or at least trying to.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Esperanza<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Archers mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Archers mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20120405/0e9d78c3/attachment.html><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Archers mailing list<br>Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br>http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org<br><br><br>End of Archers Digest, Vol 103, Issue 9<br>***************************************<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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