[Archers] Kingdom Archery Champion Quiver

[Siegfried]

Well, the best way to keep them straight is this:

All the 'Royal' positions (Baker, Bard, Brewer, Archer), are Kingdom
Notables, and are all decided by a COMPETITION.  Not by Royal whim.
They also really have no responsibilities except to run next year's
competition.

The 'Champions' for the Kingdom, are just like Baronial Champions.  A
position picked at the whim of the one doing the picking.

...

Basically, the 'original Archery Champion' as we called it, was a bit of
a misnomer, because we'd stolen the concept from the East, who has
different traditions.

So, Logan/Jonathas/etc at the time, basically brought all the archery
stuff in line with the other similar positions.

Siegfried - Who during one of his times as 'Royal Archer' (then called
Kingdom Archery Champion), has his own confusion, as the K&Q decided to
declare their own 'Champion', who wasn't me, and was part of their
retinue.  So the confusion existed even back then.


On 5/25/11 7:13 AM, John Atkins wrote:
> Fen,
> Welcome to the confused and befuddled crowd!  In my experience Royal
> anything, bard, brewer, scribe, etc., WAS a member of the current
> court.  Exceptions to that were the heavy champion and rapier champion. 
> Logan choose to call this position the Atlantian Archer Champion, a name
> that had formerly refered to that individual who won the day long shoot
> event named such.  When he re-created that position, it actually existed
> previously and I believe Samual Calvert was the first, the "other"
> archer position, the one named for the individual winning the day long
> shoot event, was named the Atlantian Royal Archer Champion.  Clear? 
> No?  More like muddy water.  So, how to keep them staight?  Easy, I just
> remember than any member of the current court is the Royal whatever,
> EXCEPT for the archery champion.  They are the Atlantian champion and
> the "other" champion is the Royal champion.  They are reversed.
>  
> OK, my head hurts now.  Going away,
>  
> cog
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* fenrisulven at comcast.net [mailto:fenrisulven at comcast.net]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:04 AM
>     *To:* John Atkins
>     *Cc:* Siegfried; archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>     *Subject:* Re: [Archers] Kingdom Archery Champion Quiver
> 
> 
>     "When Jonathas was the champion Logan re-instituted the archery
>     champion position as a member of court.  Logan choose to name this
>     position Atlantian Archery Champion, thus the former Atlantian Archery
>     Champion then became the Royal Archery Champion (this being the
>     individual who won the day long shoot formerly known as the Atlantian
>     Archery Champion shoot)."
> 
>      
> 
>     This always confuses my feeble mind. 
> 
>      
> 
>     The Royal's archer is known as the Atlantian Archery Champion,
> 
>     but the actual Atlantian Archery Champion is the Royal Archer?
> 
>      
> 
>     er, right?
> 
>      
> 
>     Seems backwards.  Makes my head hurt.  How do you remember which is
>     which?
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     Cheers
> 
>     Befuddled Fen
> 

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