[Archers] seasonal challenge rules - there will be an exam next week

Jonathas Jonathas at RedFoxDen.org
Wed Mar 2 06:11:21 PST 2011


You nailed the first part of it with how to run the ends.

Now for the "how is this a competition" part....  In a normal "points"
shoot, you shoot a score and your best score stands against everyone else's
best score.  Hence depending on who enters a score it is fairly predictable
who will end up winning.  In this case you shoot a score, and essentially
duel against one other person of your picking (remember they have to accept,
if you pick someone way below your skill level they know they will loose so
would not accept the duel).  Your partner for the duel shoots a score.
Neither of you know what the others score is until after both scores are
entered, so it does not matter who shoots first.  The scores site matches
the two halves of the duel up, the winner gets 2 points, the looser gets 1
point.  So in this manner the over all winner will be who can either shoot
the most, or who can shoot a fair amount but win most of the time.  This
concept came from the armored "Bear Pit" tourneys so that the mid-level
fighters have a chance to win, even if they don't win the most fights.

Also, don't get hung up on the target itself.  The target for each duel
should be unique and a challenge for the two archers involved, ideally it
should take the archers about 3~5 shots to complete.  For example I might
challenge Siegfried to "Hit a soda bottle cap at 20 yards" (two crossbows
shooting an uber small target) true, either one of us might get lucky and
hit it on our first shot, but more then likely it would be the second,
third, or fourth shot that finally hits.  But if I were to challenge Andreas
(currently a recurve marksman in DC) I might go with something more like
"With a recurve, hit a 5" square block twice starting it at 15 yards".  This
forces me to use my recurve (not my best weapons form, and probably give
Andreas the advantage) It might be done with a two shots, but more then
likely it will take 3 or 4, as the first hit will move the ball back, and
the speed round would be a real challenge.  The two archers in the duel
never need to be at the same range, only shoot at the same target.

So, challenge people of similar skill levels to duels, or design the target
such that it puts the "better" archer at a handicap so that the duel is
fairly even.  Pick a random target that would be a challenge to both.  Then
enter your scores.  Just like the armored Bear Pit, this shoot is as much
about stamina as it is about winning.  One great score will not win this,
consistent performance will.

I added the whole thing about "trash talk" just to take the sillyness level
up several notches, no try trash talk is required.  However I hope that
people take the intended sillyness of the challenges to heart and boast
about winning some of the crazy duels that will hopefully happen.

Hopefully that clears the mud up some???

Jonathas




On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Holly Gibbons <holly0920 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ok, thanks Jonathas and Marco, I am finally beginning to get this one, I
> think!
> Tell me if this is right:
>
> It has five ends, the first three (H-O-R) are exactly alike and the last
> two
> (S-E) are timed together . . . and the "points" are the number of arrows it
> takes to hit the item twice in each of the first three ends (H-O-R) and
> then you
> turn your stopwatch on and do a double, ie, hit the thing 4 times and count
> both
> the number of arrows that took and also how many seconds that took. . .
> and the
> points for the fourth end (S) is the 10s digit of the timed round and the
> points
> for the fifth round (E) is the # of arrows for the timed round (which is
> actually a "double" because you do the challenge twice together for S and
> E) . .
> . is that it? Am I close?
>
> So this is basically a two-arrow challenge, at each of five ends? In other
> words
> if you are a God of Archery you could do the challenge in 10 arrows, at the
> very minimum. And the timed thing is really how many arrows does it take
> you to
> hit the item four times? And add "points" for the length of time, so if it
> took
> you 34 seconds, you add 3 and if it took you 78 seconds add 7 and so on? Is
> it
> always two arrows? You have to hit the thing twice each end? So you win if
> you
> get the lowest "score" overall ???
>
> But here's my problem. This won't work very well for me because I think
> this is
> a guy thing - - I don't think girls talk trash, whatever that is, no matter
> whether we are competitive in our minds or not! And before everybody jumps
> on
> me, I'm not trying to be sexist and you know I am as competitve as any of
> you
> guys! But where do you go with this? I like the shoots you are describing,
> they
> sound like fun things to shoot at and that is always a good thing. We can
> have
> fun with these great ideas, that's the kind of playing we do at practices
> anyway, like chase the arrow and stuff. But how does this work as a
> competition
> over the course of three months? If I read your original posting correctly,
> you
> win by sheer number of times you try a challenge?
>
>
> So where do you find these styrofoam balls? (Am I right you were refering
> to
> inch diameters there?)
> Thanks for helping me study for the exam. Nuala
>
>
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