[Archers] A question for the group

[Garth G. Groff]

M'Lord Christophe,

Just because something is period doesn't necessarily mean we HAVE to 
accept it. There were stabilizing sticks for longbows (apparently used 
in Germanic countries). I wouldn't allow points gained using such a 
device to be counted on my range unless given specific direction to do 
so by the DEM or by changes to the rules. The same is true (even more 
so) for crossbows. Such devices give an unfair advantage to those 
archers that use them, to the detriment of everybody else's fun.

As I read the rules, a stabilizer for a handicapped archer is already 
allowed as an unspecified exception. What isn't clear is if their scores 
can count toward winning a tournament or for royal rounds. Lorelei, give 
us your views on this particular point.

Kind regards,


Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir TA Marshal

On 6/3/2011 10:55 AM, John Atkins wrote:
> On another kingdom archery list where I often lurk, they are 
> discussing the use of tripods for crossbow users.  The original 
> question of legality of tripod use was posed by an archer who seems to 
> have several physical limitations, i.e. they have to use a crank to 
> cock their crossbow but it only has a prod draw weight of 90 pounds.  
> As we know from pictures, the use of some device for stabilization of 
> crossbows was actually used in period.  The society rules do not 
> specifically disallow stabilizing devices for crossbows.  Rule #5 
> under handbows does state stabilizers, sights, etc. are disallowed.  
> However, in this rule I believe they are referring to those weights 
> that stick out from the bow as used in Olympic shooting.
> I can see some serious issues if Atlantia chooses to allow a 
> stabilizing device for crossbow shooters.  I would expect that many 
> crossbow RR scores would soon soar into the ludicrous range as use 
> of a stabilizing device would/could remove the "wiggle" as a result of 
> hand held human breathing.  If stabilizing devices are allowed, I 
> would then be in favor of a different category for RR scores.  That 
> would be crossbows using stabilizing devices and leave the other 
> category for handbows and hand held crossbows as it currently is.  
> (Not getting into the discussion of crossbows versus handbows and 
> fairness of that!)
> So question for the community, should stabilizing devices be allowed 
> for crossbow shooters?  If so, should there be any limitations to the 
> nature of these devices?  I've seen pictures of archers using a staff 
> to stabilize the bow but not tripods.  Others may have pictures of 
> tripod use.  Should there be a rule added to the Atlantian archery 
> rules specifically disallowing stabilizing devices, i.e. staffs, 
> tripods, for any bow?  Or should this entire discussion be the victim 
> of the DELETE button?
> cog
>
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