[Archers] shooting opportunities

Thu Nov 4 12:02:49 PDT 2010

Well, fellow archers, I can say that the summer challenge, the "circle shoot" 
was a problem for a couple of reasons. For one thing, you could not tell from 20 

yards if you had cleanly hit every outer circle. If you moved on and you were 
wrong your inner shoots might be moot and if you reshot a circle and it had in 
fact been hit you were wasting arrows. We at the Needwood Forest Company of 
Archers found it very frustrating! 

Also I believe it was Jonathas who wanted bowmen and up to shoot at rather small 

circumferences - - and therein lay the challenge. It was really a crossbow 
shoot. Where's your score, Jonathas? I tease you - - but it was indeed 
difficult  :)

I suggest a fall shoot with no "gateway" requirements. How about nine circles 
arranged in a pyramid. The bottom three are 11" diameter, the middle two are 8" 
diameter and the topmost is 4.5" diameter. You have 6 arrows, your choice of 
target. big guys 1 pt, middle guys 2 pts, little guy on top 3 pts. If you hit 
all six individual circles, an extra 5 pts. You will have some choices to make, 
but once you figure out what you are doing, it's clear shooting. Oh, and unless 
it's a muti-target shoot with some fast and some really close and some really 
far, crossbows should be their own category! Oh, and if your arrow does 
not hit the target you were aiming at it is out of play (no accidental pts!) and 

one more thing, there are many ways to shoot this so try them all. Plus one more 

thing, it would be great if all six circles were different colors . . . . and 
no, I did not forget a timed round. I hate the very idea!

Nuala of the Needwood Forest Company of Archers

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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 08:32:08 -0400
From: loreleielkins at aol.com
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: [Archers] shooting opportunities: seasonal, winter, IKAC
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There are a couple opportunities for shooting something a little different this 
winter.  First, we have the Winter Challenge: 
http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/wint.html Atlantia has participated in this in the 

past.  

IKAC, just get out and do them. They are a lot of fun.  I think we just did one 
or two last year locally.  We tend not to because we often have new or beginner 
archers who see the IKAC as a daunting task.  We'll have to get them over that.  

(Eirik, if you want to have a monthly IKAC shoot on a Baronial level, we can set 

that up.)

Also, we have our Atlantian seasonal challenge.  We had our summer challenge, 
which didn't get much participation. During the summer months people are usually 

busy with a ton of other things, but we are over due for our Fall Challenge.  
Anyone want to come up with one?  The scoring should be straight forward and the 

targets easy to understand and reproduce for all areas.  Let's see what we can 
come up with this week and I'll post it before the weekend.

Lorelei

PS  The Summer Seasonal Challenge (The Circle Shoot - 
http://www.scores-sca.org/public/scores_current.php?R=2&Shoot=54) had only 6 
participants.  Gregge the Archer took first (and only) place for the crossbow 
with 60 points.  Geoffrey and Nuala of Needwood tied for first place for 
Handbow.  Ceridwyn of Needwood Forest won first (and only) youth category for 
Handbow.  Roshu of Rocksbury Mills took second place for Handbow and Breccan of 
Needwood Forest too third for Handbow.

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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 08:45:27 -0400
From: loreleielkins at aol.com
To: holly0920 at yahoo.com, summerrain.wa at gmail.com
Cc: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] Youth Archery
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Greetings!  I don't know of list or forum specifically for youth archers and I 
can understand their feeling of isolation.  Our local group has one youth archer 

who is continually voicing his opinion about having to compete with the adults.  

I don't see a separate youth archery program starting up any time soon, but I'm 
not sure there is a need for one.  In archery, we tend to take the youth under 
our wing and include them on the line with the adults.  This seems to work very 
well, as they learn from experienced archers.  I agree with Nuala that Pennsic 
seems to be the place where youth archers can get together.  

I do encourage all local groups and marshals to recognize the efforts of the 
youth archers and when holding events, to make sure there is a  youth category 
in the competitive shoots.  A separate youth shoot is also desirable. You may 
get one youth archer showing up, you may get 10, but at least they know they are 

being encouraged to participate. In general I think we do a pretty good job of 
this.

New ideas are always welcome.
Lorelei

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From: Holly Gibbons <holly0920 at yahoo.com>
To: Summer Rain <summerrain.wa at gmail.com>
Cc: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Archers] Youth Archery

Dearest Anne Rose: 

In Atlantia there's no separate youth archery program so our kids shoot royal 
rounds like everyone else. I don't think Ceridwyn ever scored from the 40 until 
she moved out of her 14 bow and got the 20 she has now. The few youth archers 
all know each other up here in the north, but I wouldn't say that my children 
were really looking for other children to be archers with. Instead I think they 
really appreciated the advice and mentoring of adults in the sca, and they have 
always enjoyed competing against adults (Godai who is iinfinitely kind and 
patient and wise will attest to how much pleaseure Ceridwyn has had trying to 
catch up to him - - to no avail). 

The IKAC has both children's and youth divisions but it has crazy rules - - as 
soon as you score well they kick you out even if you are 7 years old, and you 
have to shoot the adult IKAC distances, post scores on the adult list, and 
there's no way to identify who is a child on the list. So the youth of the known 

world have no way of knowing how they stack up against youth from other 
kingdoms, and the designation of "winner" in the child or youth division of the 
IKAC is completely meaningless. 

BTW, the one place Ceridwyn has made really good friends among other youth 
archers is at Pennsic. She has a regular gang there. The other place to find 
good youth archers is at a traditional bow event like we have here at Baltimore 
Bowmen every spring. 

How old is your young archer friend? Ceridwyn is 12 and I could pass along a 
message if you like. She has a facebook page, which is another option for 
getting them connected. What about Pietre and Oilliam, the bright young archers 
of Bright Hills? They are about the same age, too. Lorelei might know of other 
good tween archers in the south of Atlantia.

From: Summer Rain <summerrain.wa at gmail.com>
To: Holly Gibbons <holly0920 at yahoo.com>
Cc: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 1:21:41 PM
Subject: Youth Archery

An Tir's rules changed for youth archery effective yesterday, because of the 
fact that there are some Damn good young archers. Unfortunately, the one youth 
archer I know here, feels very isolated, as she's the only youth archer she 
knows who is as good as she is. I did tell here there were others, albeit in 
other kingdoms, but she's not alone.
Is there an email list for the youth archers to learn about each other? Or 
something? 

Yep my bow is glaring..I'm shooting my mouth off again :) 
Anne rose
Sigrids Other Archer minion

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