[Archers] Fwd: Dropped arrows rule

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Siegfried says:


You can't
oke the guy next to you with an arrow.

 
You hear that Christophe?!!






-----Original Message-----
From: Siegfried <siegfried at crossbows.biz>
To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 10:14 am
Subject: Re: [Archers] Dropped arrows rule


Greetings Mungo ... I'll chime in with my experiences/thoughts
On the 'counts as a shot':
I've never seen that applied in the SCA.  If you fumble and drop
omething, whoops, grab another from your quiver.   So no, tradition
ndicates that if you didn't 'shoot it', it wasn't a 'shot'.   We
houldn't be trying to find ways to penalize shooters, instead of
etting them have fun.
(In fact, I've seen this applied so far as to discount any 'thrown'
rrows, on purpose or by accident as well.  Since again, if it wasn't
hot, it wasn't shot)
On the safety rule:
You are correct, noone should be reaching over a line to pick up an arrow.
(Of course, the situation is somewhat complicated by "How far away did
t drop", etc.   As a standing crossbowman, I bend over at a 90degree to
oad my crossbow and draw bolts from a leg quiver.  If a bolt drops
ight next to my feet, or maybe a foot in front of them, I don't bend
ny more than normal to snag it.   However it's a very different
ituation when a bolt/arrow falls 3 foot in front of the line, and
omeone 'leans out' or 'steps out' to get it.  EEEK)
And in all honesty, at THAT point, it's covered by the "Noone shall
nter the safety zone during active shooting" bits, so you really don't
eed a separate rule.
However, also in general, I'd be very hesitant to start listing off
very single "You can't do X" rule.  As the list would be ginormous.
ou can't turn around with a loaded bow.  You can't shoot backwards.
ou can't aim your bow at an 80degree angle while drawing it.  You can't
oke the guy next to you with an arrow.  You can't kick someone while
hey are drawing their bow.  You can't cut someone's crossbow string
hile they are aiming ... etc etc etc etc
Such things, IMO, are best left under "Keep a safe line" and "Keep
veryone out of the safety zone" and for the marshal to inform folks about.
Siegfried

n 8/27/10 9:58 AM, Garth G. Groff wrote:
 Lady Lorelei and friends,
 
 I've been looking for a rule concerning dropped arrows on the shooting
 line, and haven't found anything. On our range, a dropped arrow always
 counted as a shot, or maybe I'm going back 30 years to college rules. I
 was corrected by the MIC last spring at a tournament when I told a
 shooter to leave the arrow and count it as a miss. So what is the
 kingdom rule on this?
 
 Whether the archer is allowed another shot, or has to count a dropped
 arrow, is a separate issue from whether they should stoop over to pick
 it up. I contend they should let it lay as it is until bows go down,
 since stooping over to pick up the arrow could cost them a poke in the
 eye if the person next to them is nocking. Yes, it might get stepped on,
 but that is a smaller concern than safety of the line.And there is no
 question that an arrow beyond the line says put until "Bows down" is
 called.
 
 Lady Lorelei, should this become an addition to our safety rules at the
 next update?
 
 Kind regards,
 
 
 Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir Target Archery Marshal
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