[Archers] atlatl was Fwd: Fwd: I need your help (from Enequy)

[loreleielkins at aol.com]

The intent of presenting information here is to share discussion, not one of decision making.  It is a good thing to flesh out all options, hear differing ideas, rebuttals, pros, cons.  It has value.  Keep it coming.
 
Lorelei
 

 
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From: Robyn Becker <reyne_telarius at hotmail.com>
To: Archers Mailing List <archers at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Tue, Aug 24, 2010 12:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Archers] atlatl was Fwd: Fwd: I need your help (from Enequy)


This is clearly not working.  Nobody is agreeing with anyone else completely, but instead throw out another variation.  And while Jonathan's research is nice, I dont see why our rules have to mimic mundane rules.  Keeping the atlatl rules as close to archery rules as possible makes it a lot easier for our marshals.
 
Since no one seemed to like my idea of testing out the various combos to see what works best, maybe we should just run a poll, to see what the majority of the group thinks should work.  Send out an email with all the options, and let each person respond with their choices.  Otherwise, we may never come to a consensus.
 
Reyne

A true friend is someone who knows all your faults and habits, and loves you anyway.
Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin argent



 
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:02:56 -0400
From: jonathanmitz at grunley.com
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] atlatl was Fwd: Fwd: I need your help (from Enequy)


I would like to add my thoughts to the debate. 


he current Atlantian rules for Atlatl are based on an archery mind set.

eople who can only count to 5, and need colors to help!  In the mundane

orld of Atlatl hurlers, they can count to 10; however, they have to

tart at 6.  Don't ask where 1 through 5 went.  But at least they can do

t in black and white.  Please see the attached image of their official

tlatl target.  The target looks to be 100cm in diameter.


y research has uncovered the distances at which they throw and the

umber of darts at each distance vary somewhat by club.  The closest is

 meters and the furthest is 25 meters.  The total number of darts in an

fficial round appears to be 10, either two stations of 5 darts each, or

 stations with 2 darts each.


he current Atlantian throwing distances are 20, 30 and 40 yards.  Since

e in the SCA try to have fun, anything past 20 yards for a 60sm target

oes not meet that standard.


 propose the following:

arget:  standard Royal Round 60cm 5 color target.

istances:  10 yards, 15 yards, and 20 yards

umber of darts at each distance: 3

ighest possible score is 45.


onathan





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ou might have to shift me up onto the archers list again, just got home

rom archery and dinner and not taken time yet to find out why i cannot

ost to the list. will work on that as soon as ii get all my thoughts

ogeather here. 


 have read about 90% of the emails here. And they all have good strong

oints. But some was getting of the subject line - and getting tnto

uilding special targets. Why? Why not continue to use the normal

rchery targets. Number one - costs extra for the larger target face - -

ACH. And then you are also making a new target butt just for the larger

arget face. Now also if you are on a range that does not have multiple

arget butts it makes it all the more difficult to interface the Atlatl

n with the normal archery.  The 120 cm does make it easier to score

igher but it makes it more difficult to set up on some ranges. 


lso if you start using the pink  or blue foam then you are also adding

hat stuff to your arrows and darts. And no matter what comvering you

se it coates the arrow, just some more then others. The darts have no

rotective covering.   


I shot over a dozen rounds tonight using the normal targets and target

utts that we use. I am not all that good - miss a whole lot. I was

hooting at the standard 60cm targets with 6 darts. My ranges was the

0, 20, 30. LOL - the 10 is not as easy as it sounds. And the 30 still

icks my butt (pun intended). My round scores on the web site is 10, 9,

nd 7 (for 3 darts and 20, 30, 40). Tonight my scores were 13, 15, and

7. And with practice I know I will do better. And some of you out there

an probably beat me easily. Imagine - - The 20 is still in, the 30 is

till in, the 10 is new and not as easy as it sounds, the for 40 is out

 you do not have to heave the dart HARD - and aim at the same time. 


 shot along with the archers. Before I actually put out a 10 yard

arget the archer waited on me for ONE round. But I waited on the archer

NE or TWO rounds. If the Atlatl is to be a part of the archery

nvironment then lets work togeather.  lol - the biggest problem that I

an into was the good humored hassel about throwing lawn darts. 


here was a few times I got all 6 darts into the butt at the same time

lol - mostly outside the white). And had no problems with the target

alling down. No rebar - just lean the butt back a little and brace it.

lso at the 10 yard range I shot alongside two young girls about 10

ears old. No problems. 


n comclusion - staying on the subject of what to shoot  and not how to

uild a target - - - -  I am still a firm believer in the 10, 20, 30

ith 6 darts. I like to stay with the 60cm. But what ever the community

grees as a whole - that I will go with. 


his might start another train of messages, but maybe the net result

ill be a set of rules that the most of us will like and the rest will

ccept as is. 


ave a good day all


nequy

goooh)





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