[Archers] atlatl was Fwd: Fwd: I need your help (from Enequy)

[Jonathan Mitz]

I would like to add my thoughts to the debate. 

The current Atlantian rules for Atlatl are based on an archery mind set.
People who can only count to 5, and need colors to help!  In the mundane
world of Atlatl hurlers, they can count to 10; however, they have to
start at 6.  Don't ask where 1 through 5 went.  But at least they can do
it in black and white.  Please see the attached image of their official
atlatl target.  The target looks to be 100cm in diameter.
 
My research has uncovered the distances at which they throw and the
number of darts at each distance vary somewhat by club.  The closest is
6 meters and the furthest is 25 meters.  The total number of darts in an
official round appears to be 10, either two stations of 5 darts each, or
5 stations with 2 darts each.
 
The current Atlantian throwing distances are 20, 30 and 40 yards.  Since
we in the SCA try to have fun, anything past 20 yards for a 60sm target
does not meet that standard.
 
I propose the following:
Target:  standard Royal Round 60cm 5 color target.
Distances:  10 yards, 15 yards, and 20 yards
Number of darts at each distance: 3
Highest possible score is 45.

Jonathan




-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [Archers] atlatl was Fwd: Fwd: I need your help (from Enequy)

Forwarded for Enequy
 
(Don't know why you can read but not post to the list, Enequy.  If
anyone else is having this problem, please send an e-mail to me.)


-----Original Message-----
From: enequy at comcast.net
To: loreleielkins at aol.com
Cc: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Mon, Aug 23, 2010 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Archers] Fwd: I need your help


You might have to shift me up onto the archers list again, just got home
from archery and dinner and not taken time yet to find out why i cannot
post to the list. will work on that as soon as ii get all my thoughts
togeather here. 
 
I have read about 90% of the emails here. And they all have good strong
points. But some was getting of the subject line - and getting tnto
building special targets. Why? Why not continue to use the normal
archery targets. Number one - costs extra for the larger target face - -
EACH. And then you are also making a new target butt just for the larger
target face. Now also if you are on a range that does not have multiple
target butts it makes it all the more difficult to interface the Atlatl
in with the normal archery.  The 120 cm does make it easier to score
higher but it makes it more difficult to set up on some ranges. 
 
Also if you start using the pink  or blue foam then you are also adding
that stuff to your arrows and darts. And no matter what comvering you
use it coates the arrow, just some more then others. The darts have no
protective covering.   
 
 I shot over a dozen rounds tonight using the normal targets and target
butts that we use. I am not all that good - miss a whole lot. I was
shooting at the standard 60cm targets with 6 darts. My ranges was the
10, 20, 30. LOL - the 10 is not as easy as it sounds. And the 30 still
kicks my butt (pun intended). My round scores on the web site is 10, 9,
and 7 (for 3 darts and 20, 30, 40). Tonight my scores were 13, 15, and
17. And with practice I know I will do better. And some of you out there
can probably beat me easily. Imagine - - The 20 is still in, the 30 is
still in, the 10 is new and not as easy as it sounds, the for 40 is out
- you do not have to heave the dart HARD - and aim at the same time. 
 
I shot along with the archers. Before I actually put out a 10 yard
target the archer waited on me for ONE round. But I waited on the archer
ONE or TWO rounds. If the Atlatl is to be a part of the archery
environment then lets work togeather.  lol - the biggest problem that I
ran into was the good humored hassel about throwing lawn darts. 
 
There was a few times I got all 6 darts into the butt at the same time
(lol - mostly outside the white). And had no problems with the target
falling down. No rebar - just lean the butt back a little and brace it.
Also at the 10 yard range I shot alongside two young girls about 10
years old. No problems. 
 
In comclusion - staying on the subject of what to shoot  and not how to
build a target - - - -  I am still a firm believer in the 10, 20, 30
with 6 darts. I like to stay with the 60cm. But what ever the community
agrees as a whole - that I will go with. 
 
This might start another train of messages, but maybe the net result
will be a set of rules that the most of us will like and the rest will
accept as is. 
 
Have a good day all
 
Enequy
(goooh)
 

 
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