[Archers] Fwd: I need your help

Mon Aug 23 06:39:16 PDT 2010

Oh, and I should add.   the 120cm at 10yds made from pink foam?   Also
makes an amazing young kids target to have them shooting alongside the
adults :)

Siegfried

On 8/23/10 9:36 AM, Siegfried wrote:
> Lord Mungo, a very salient point.  I will add as followup to my last
> statement.  If Atlatl was to go to 120cm targets.   Stands for them are
> remarkably easy to create.  As that size is approx 4' ... A 4x8 sheet of
> pink insulation from Home Depot, cut in half and duct taped back
> together, makes a very effective 120cm target butt.   Just prop it up
> with some sticks/rods into/against the ground.
> 
> Therefore making it rather easy to have a 'second target' just for Atlatl
> 
> Siegfried
> 
> 
> On 8/23/10 9:28 AM, Garth G. Groff wrote:
>> Lorelei, Enequy, and friends,
>>
>> No problems with the six darts idea, though Lord Christophe is right
>> about target construction.
>>
>> Right now, atlatls are welcome alongside archers at Isenfir's practice,
>> and occasionally we have a thrower. We have only a single fixed target
>> with moving shooting lines. Adding a 10-yard target for atlatls would
>> require an extra end, and would not be popular with the archers (they
>> need to shoot first, along with the cross bow folks to avoid the
>> possibility of breaking arrows). When I shoot with Caer Gelynniog, they
>> offer a second target for atlatls next to the archery target, but
>> Isenfir has only one. Enequy's idea of 10-20-30 would work fine with a
>> separate range, or with two targets (with the atlatl target set ten
>> yards closer), but a separate range defeats the direction Atlantian
>> marshals are expected to be moving with regards to atlatls.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>> Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir Target Archery Marshal
>>
>> loreleielkins at aol.com wrote:
>>> Forwarded for Enequy.(Goooh)
>>>
>>> He brings up some points for discussion about atlatl.  Lady Reyne
>>> (robynbecker_AT_comcast.net <mailto:robynbecker_AT_comcast.net>) has
>>> proposed some rules for atlatl as well.  We've asked around the atlatl
>>> community and most people agree that we can go from three to six
>>> darts.  Thoughts?  Discussion?
>>>
>>> Lorelei
>>>
>>> PS We will have atlatl at War of the Wings, but not on a separate
>>> range from archery. We will also have an atlatl prize shoot.  Right
>>> now, for some reason atlatl counts as part of the thrown weapons war
>>> point.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: enequy at comcast.net
>>> To: loreleielkins at aol.com
>>> Cc: archers at atlantia.sca.org
>>> Sent: Mon, Aug 23, 2010 12:39 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Archers] I need your help
>>>
>>> I plan on being down there that WoW weekend and will assist for a
>>> little on the archery range.
>>>  
>>> But also planning on splitting my time with Atlatl and thrown weapons
>>>  
>>> Speaking of the Atlatl - - who did you say was the person to chat with
>>> about the Atlatl rules?? And email address??
>>>  
>>> The reason for the Atlatl info is I would like to recommend some
>>> changes, especially since the rules have not been stabilized yet.
>>> Being the present highest scorer on the active Atlatl list with a
>>> measly 5.7 (the highest obtained is 14.7). That means no one has even
>>> reached the third rank (5 into second and 15 into third). This is
>>> highly frustrating for the person trying to make points.
>>>  
>>> My first recommendation is to change the range from 20, 30, 40 and
>>> move to 10, 20, 30. Not worried about speed - but what does other
>>> people think on a timed round. From what I understand the mundane
>>> Atlatl ranges are complimentary to what I have recommended. If the
>>> range has multiple butts up the addition or movement for a 10 yard
>>> shoot will not be that much. And if the archers move forward or back
>>> to make the ranges  it still will not be that much. We all wait for
>>> each of us to finish our shoot first anyway. And the person shooting
>>> the Atlatl will have to wait for the timed and the 40 yard range to be
>>> shot also.
>>>  
>>> I also recommend the use of six (6) atlatl darts at each range. And if
>>> a person only has three darts then throw three darts at a time and
>>> wait for the next round to shoot the next three. As long as six are
>>> shot at each range in sequence - either = 3at10, 3at10 and then move
>>> on or 6at 10 then move on. the 10, 20, 30 does not have to be thrown
>>> in that order as long as there are no 'practice' shots between.
>>> Basically the same rules there as archery.
>>>  
>>> Maybe this way more people can get interested in the Atlatl.
>>> especially without being frustrated with the LOW point system
>>> presently in place.
>>>  
>>> Enequy
>>> (sometimes known as Goooh of the March people)
>>>  
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: loreleielkins at aol.com <mailto:loreleielkins at aol.com>
>>> To: archers at atlantia.sca.org <mailto:archers at atlantia.sca.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:08:16 PM
>>> Subject: [Archers] I need your help
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>  
>>> I'm sure you've noticed the posts about War of the Wings. 
>>> (www.warofthewings.com <http://www.warofthewings.com/>)  Its shaping
>>> up into a nice little war, and is now the largest event in the kingdom
>>> of Atlantia.  Its grown a bit too big for just a handful of marshals
>>> to run the archery range.  Last year we had well over 200 people come
>>> to shoot on the range over the 3 days it was open.
>>>  
>>> Lady Katarzyna Witkowska and Lord Edward de Witt will act as Deputy
>>> Archery Marshals for the event but we are in sore need of more help. 
>>> There are kids on the range who need twice as many eyes watching them
>>> than adults, and the shear number of people there means that we need
>>> several line marshals at all times.  We also need marshals to help
>>> with inspections and help running the night shoot.
>>>  
>>> If you are coming to War of the Wings, please let me know if you can
>>> work for an hour or two on the archery range.  I'll have a sign up
>>> sheet and everything!  The tentative schedule is posted below.  If you
>>> have never been to War of the Wings, you are missing an amazing event
>>> and you need to fix that.
>>>
>>> Thursday 8 to 12.  Range Set up
>>> Thursday: Range opened from 1 to 5 for open shooting and Royal Rounds
>>>  
>>> Friday Range Opened 10 to 5
>>> 10:00 inspections
>>> 2:00 - 3:00 Beginning archery for kids
>>> 3:00 - 4:00 Beginning Atlatl
>>> 4:00 - 5:00 Atlatl prize fling!
>>> 7:30 - Susan G. Komen fundraiser night shoot 
>>>  
>>> Saturday Range Opened 8:30 - 5:00 (closed for procession)
>>> 11:30 Beginning Archery for Adults
>>> 12:30 Kids Prize Shoot
>>> 1:30 Improving your Archery
>>> 3:00 Adult Prize shoot
>>>  
>>> War Points can be shot all day Friday and Saturday (just once)
>>>  
>>> Sunday range take down
>>>  
>>> Sunday 10 - 12 Archery Marshals class
>>>  
>>> Thanks! 
>>>  
>>> Lorelei
>>> MiC - Archery
>>> War of the Wings
>>>  
>>> Please cross post this to appropriate lists. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
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