[Archers] Fwd: I need your help

Mon Aug 23 06:11:53 PDT 2010

I believe Gooh and I talked a bit about this at Pennsic.  I am in
agreement that adding a butt at 10 yards would significantly simplify
the range while accomodating atlatlist.  My only concern about throwing
6 darts at the same time is the leverage on the butt that six darts
could exert (should the atlatlist actually get all six in the butt).
This would require a more substatial mounting system for the butt.  Not
impossible but it would add a consideration into range set up and
construction.  Most atlatl battles only allow 3 darts to be used thus I
would think most folks doing atlatl would have 3 darts and not 6.  Just
my thinking.  So doing two ends of 3 darts each at each distance works.

As for the rankings as posted, that was just a straw man we created to
get the scores db up and running.  If we need to modify the rankings
then let's go for it.

cog

-----Original Message-----
From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of
loreleielkins at aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:58 AM
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: [Archers] Fwd: I need your help

Forwarded for Enequy.(Goooh)

He brings up some points for discussion about atlatl.  Lady Reyne
(robynbecker_AT_comcast.net) has proposed some rules for atlatl as well.
We've asked around the atlatl community and most people agree that we
can go from three to six darts.  Thoughts?  Discussion?

Lorelei 

PS We will have atlatl at War of the Wings, but not on a separate range
from archery. We will also have an atlatl prize shoot.  Right now, for
some reason atlatl counts as part of the thrown weapons war point.

-----Original Message-----
From: enequy at comcast.net
To: loreleielkins at aol.com
Cc: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Mon, Aug 23, 2010 12:39 am
Subject: Re: [Archers] I need your help

I plan on being down there that WoW weekend and will assist for a little
on the archery range. 

But also planning on splitting my time with Atlatl and thrown weapons

Speaking of the Atlatl - - who did you say was the person to chat with
about the Atlatl rules?? And email address??

The reason for the Atlatl info is I would like to recommend some
changes, especially since the rules have not been stabilized yet. Being
the present highest scorer on the active Atlatl list with a measly 5.7
(the highest obtained is 14.7). That means no one has even reached the
third rank (5 into second and 15 into third). This is highly frustrating
for the person trying to make points. 

My first recommendation is to change the range from 20, 30, 40 and move
to 10, 20, 30. Not worried about speed - but what does other people
think on a timed round. From what I understand the mundane Atlatl ranges
are complimentary to what I have recommended. If the range has multiple
butts up the addition or movement for a 10 yard shoot will not be that
much. And if the archers move forward or back to make the ranges  it
still will not be that much. We all wait for each of us to finish our
shoot first anyway. And the person shooting the Atlatl will have to wait
for the timed and the 40 yard range to be shot also. 

I also recommend the use of six (6) atlatl darts at each range. And if a
person only has three darts then throw three darts at a time and wait
for the next round to shoot the next three. As long as six are shot at
each range in sequence - either = 3at10, 3at10 and then move on or 6at
10 then move on. the 10, 20, 30 does not have to be thrown in that order
as long as there are no 'practice' shots between. Basically the same
rules there as archery. 

Maybe this way more people can get interested in the Atlatl. especially
without being frustrated with the LOW point system presently in place. 

Enequy
(sometimes known as Goooh of the March people)

----- Original Message -----
From: loreleielkins at aol.com
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:08:16 PM
Subject: [Archers] I need your help

Hi folks,

I'm sure you've noticed the posts about War of the Wings.
(www.warofthewings.com <http://www.warofthewings.com/> )  Its shaping up
into a nice little war, and is now the largest event in the kingdom of
Atlantia.  Its grown a bit too big for just a handful of marshals to run
the archery range.  Last year we had well over 200 people come to shoot
on the range over the 3 days it was open. 

Lady Katarzyna Witkowska and Lord Edward de Witt will act as Deputy
Archery Marshals for the event but we are in sore need of more help.
There are kids on the range who need twice as many eyes watching them
than adults, and the shear number of people there means that we need
several line marshals at all times.  We also need marshals to help with
inspections and help running the night shoot.

If you are coming to War of the Wings, please let me know if you can
work for an hour or two on the archery range.  I'll have a sign up sheet
and everything!  The tentative schedule is posted below.  If you have
never been to War of the Wings, you are missing an amazing event and you
need to fix that.

Thursday 8 to 12.  Range Set up
Thursday: Range opened from 1 to 5 for open shooting and Royal Rounds

Friday Range Opened 10 to 5
10:00 inspections
2:00 - 3:00 Beginning archery for kids 
3:00 - 4:00 Beginning Atlatl 
4:00 - 5:00 Atlatl prize fling!
7:30 - Susan G. Komen fundraiser night shoot 

Saturday Range Opened 8:30 - 5:00 (closed for procession)
11:30 Beginning Archery for Adults 
12:30 Kids Prize Shoot
1:30 Improving your Archery 
3:00 Adult Prize shoot

War Points can be shot all day Friday and Saturday (just once)

Sunday range take down

Sunday 10 - 12 Archery Marshals class

Thanks!  

Lorelei
MiC - Archery
War of the Wings

Please cross post this to appropriate lists. 

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