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<DIV><SPAN class=046070613-23082010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>I
believe Gooh and I talked a bit about this at Pennsic. I am in agreement
that adding a butt at 10 yards would significantly simplify the range while
accomodating atlatlist. My only concern about throwing 6 darts at the same
time is the leverage on the butt that six darts could exert (should the
atlatlist actually get all six in the butt). This would require a more
substatial mounting system for the butt. Not impossible but it would add a
consideration into range set up and construction. Most atlatl battles only
allow 3 darts to be used thus I would think most folks doing atlatl would have 3
darts and not 6. Just my thinking. So doing two ends of 3 darts each
at each distance works.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=046070613-23082010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>As for
the rankings as posted, that was just a straw man we created to get the scores
db up and running. If we need to modify the rankings then let's go for
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=046070613-23082010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=046070613-23082010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>cog</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>loreleielkins@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 23, 2010 8:58
AM<BR><B>To:</B> archers@atlantia.sca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Archers] Fwd: I
need your help<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT color=black size=2 face=arial><FONT
color=black size=2 face=arial>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Forwarded for
Enequy.</FONT>(Goooh)<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>He brings up some points for discussion about atlatl.
Lady Reyne (</FONT><A
href="mailto:robynbecker_AT_comcast.net">robynbecker_AT_comcast.net</A>)<FONT
color=black size=2 face=arial><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> has
proposed some rules for atlatl as well. We've asked around the atlatl
community and most people agree that we can go from three to six darts.
Thoughts? Discussion?<BR><BR>Lorelei <BR><BR>PS We will have atlatl at
War of the Wings, but not on a separate range from archery. We will also have
an atlatl prize shoot. Right now, for some reason atlatl counts as part
of the thrown weapons war point.<BR></FONT>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: enequy@comcast.net<BR>To: loreleielkins@aol.com<BR>Cc:
archers@atlantia.sca.org<BR>Sent: Mon, Aug 23, 2010 12:39 am<BR>Subject: Re:
[Archers] I need your help<BR><BR>
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<DIV>I plan on being down there that WoW weekend and will assist for a little
on the archery range. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But also planning on splitting my time with Atlatl and thrown
weapons</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Speaking of the Atlatl - - who did you say was the person to chat with
about the Atlatl rules?? And email address??</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The reason for the Atlatl info is I would like to recommend some changes,
especially since the rules have not been stabilized yet. Being the present
highest scorer on the active Atlatl list with a measly 5.7 (the highest
obtained is 14.7). That means no one has even reached the third rank (5 into
second and 15 into third). This is highly frustrating for the person trying to
make points. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My first recommendation is to change the range from 20, 30, 40 and
move to 10, 20, 30. Not worried about speed - but what does other people
think on a timed round. From what I understand the mundane Atlatl ranges are
complimentary to what I have recommended. If the range has multiple butts up
the addition or movement for a 10 yard shoot will not be that much. And if the
archers move forward or back to make the ranges it still will not be
that much. We all wait for each of us to finish our shoot first anyway. And
the person shooting the Atlatl will have to wait for the timed and the 40 yard
range to be shot also. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I also recommend the use of six (6) atlatl darts at each range. And if a
person only has three darts then throw three darts at a time and wait for the
next round to shoot the next three. As long as six are shot at each
range in sequence - either = 3at10, 3at10 and then move on or 6at 10 then
move on. the 10, 20, 30 does not have to be thrown in that order as long as
there are no 'practice' shots between. Basically the same rules there as
archery. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Maybe this way more people can get interested in the Atlatl. especially
without being frustrated with the LOW point system presently in place. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Enequy</DIV>
<DIV>(sometimes known as Goooh of the March people)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:loreleielkins@aol.com">loreleielkins@aol.com</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:archers@atlantia.sca.org">archers@atlantia.sca.org</A><BR>Sent:
Friday, August 20, 2010 9:08:16 PM<BR>Subject: [Archers] I need your
help<BR><BR></DIV><FONT color=black size=2 face=arial>
<DIV>Hi folks,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm sure you've noticed the posts about War of the Wings. (<A
href="http://www.warofthewings.com/"
target=_blank>www.warofthewings.com</A>) Its shaping up into a nice
little war, and is now the largest event in the kingdom of Atlantia. Its
grown a bit too big for just a handful of marshals to run the archery
range. Last year we had well over 200 people come to shoot on the range
over the 3 days it was open. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Lady Katarzyna Witkowska and Lord Edward de Witt will act as Deputy
Archery Marshals for the event but we are in sore need of more help.
There are kids on the range who need twice as many eyes watching them than
adults, and the shear number of people there means that we need several line
marshals at all times. We also need marshals to help with inspections
and help running the night shoot.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you are coming to War of the Wings, please let me know if you can work
for an hour or two on the archery range. I'll have a sign up sheet and
everything! The tentative schedule is posted below. If you have
never been to War of the Wings, you are missing an amazing event and you
need to fix that.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Thursday 8 to 12. Range Set up</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Thursday: Range opened from 1 to 5 for open shooting
and Royal Rounds</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Friday Range Opened 10 to 5</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">10:00 inspections</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">2:00 - 3:00 Beginning archery for kids </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">3:00 - 4:00 Beginning Atlatl </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">4:00 - 5:00 Atlatl prize fling!</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">7:30 - Susan G. Komen fundraiser night
shoot </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Saturday Range Opened 8:30 - 5:00 (closed for
procession)</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">11:30 Beginning Archery for Adults </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">12:30 Kids Prize Shoot</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">1:30 Improving your Archery </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">3:00 Adult Prize shoot</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">War Points can be shot all day Friday and Saturday
(just once)</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Sunday range take down</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Sunday 10 - 12 Archery Marshals class</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Thanks! </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Lorelei</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">MiC - Archery</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">War of the Wings</DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Please cross post this to appropriate
lists. </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both"> </DIV>
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