[Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge

[Siegfried]

As someone else pointed out, it would be a 3" piece of string.

That being said, your clarification is fine Christophe.   I just think
it's going to be a little confusing for some folks who are trying to
'find' the center.

(I imagine someone who has a couple of groups in their 10, and some
really widely spread ones, and sitting there with a ruler and calculator
trying to see if they pick a certain combination of outside ones or
inside ones that would in turn give them a better score *grin*)

Siegfried


John Atkins wrote:
> That works fine.  One point about the shoot though is that an archer
> does not have to group their arrows at the center of the target.  Hence
> the name Easy Grouping.  The value here is that if an archer can group
> their shafts then all they need to do for higher scores is change their
> aiming point.
> 
> cog
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: james.kriebel at gmail.com [mailto:james.kriebel at gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Jonathas
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:46 PM
> To: John Atkins; Eli; archers at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge
> 
> 
> My plan for this was to take a nail and tie a six inch string to it.
> That way I could push the nail into the center, and any arrow it touches
> is good.
> 
> Jonathas
> 
> On 12/31/08, John Atkins <cogworks at triad.rr.com> wrote:
>> Siegfried,
>> The intent was for the archer to choose which three arrows that would 
>> if connected with lines form a triangle.  The center of that triangle 
>> determines a center point for the circle from which to measure.  In my
> 
>> experiements with this shoot I simply define which three arrows 
>> determine the center then use a ruler butted against that "center" to 
>> measure with.  Admittedly the measuring here is not as exact as the 
>> rings on our Royal Round target faces.
>>
>> Let me know if this helps to clarify and if so, I'll amend the rules 
>> thus.
>>
>> cog
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eli [mailto:eli at eliw.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:39 AM
>> To: Jonathas; John Atkins
>> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge
>>
>>
>> Jonathas & COG ... Mind clarifying this for me?
>>
>> Reading this, I get very confused ... and it may not just be me.
>>
>> The rules state to 'choose 3 arrows to form a center to measure a 
>> circle from'.
>>
>> Does this mean you are making THREE 3" radius circles?  Or somehow 
>> using 3 shafts together as a circle?  (Doing high math trying to 
>> figure out the 'center' of those three shafts)
>>
>> You might need to clarify that ... I think that you mean THREE circles
> 
>> (I think), because the other option seems to be far too complicated. 
>> However the description says 'a circle' ... as in one.
>>
>> Confusedly Yours,
>> Siegfried
>>
>>
>> Jonathas wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Thanks for pointing out the glitch.  I'll get the What's Next fixed 
>>> so
>>> the rules show like they are supposed to.
>>>
>>> In the mean time here is what it will say tomorrow....
>>>
>>> *Shoot Begins:* Thursday, January 1, 09
>>> *Shoot Ends:* Tuesday, March 31, 09
>>> *Scores must be Submitted by:* Friday, April 3, 09
>>>
>>> *Rules:*
>>> Archers will shoot 3 ends of 10 arrows each at a distance of 20 
>>> yards.
>>> After each end is shot, the archer will determine which three arrows 
>>> will define a "center" from which to measure a 3 inch radius (6 inch
>>> diameter) circle. Any arrow either in or touching the circle gains 
>>> one
>>> point. Any shaft stuck in the frame of the butt or in the ground does
> 
>>> not count even if "technically" inside the measured circle (i.e. the 
>>> "center" of the circle is very low on the butt). Maximum possible 
>>> score per end is 10, 30 for the entire shoot. The purpose of this 
>>> shoot is to practice grouping shafts. Any butt may be used and a 
>>> target face is not required. All three ends must be shot 
>>> consecutively. That is you may not practice between ends. This shoot 
>>> will have two divisions, crossbow and handbow. Handbow includes all 
>>> longbows and recurves. NOTE: If there is a tie at the end of this 
>>> shoot (one each for crossbow and handbow), there will be two week 
>>> shoot off. The shoot off will be of a similar nature, slightly 
>>> modified. If there remains a tie after the two week shoot off, the 
>>> winners share the bragging rights!
>>>
>>> In Service,
>>> Jonathas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:57 PM, ndcsive <ndcsive at cox.net 
>>> <mailto:ndcsive at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Can anyone tell me what the next Seasonal Challenge is? I can see
>> on the
>>>     website that it is listed under "What's Next", and it is called
>> Easy
>>>     Grouping but can't read what the rules or anything for it are
>> because it
>>>     comes and says that the shoot hasn't started. Shouldn't I be able
>> to see
>>>     what the next shoot is going to be before it starts? So I know if
>> I have
>>>     to get or make a target for it? and also see when the shoot
>> starts? I
>>>     thought maybe to see it I would have to sign on as a marshal but 
>>> I
>> did
>>>     and I still can't.
>>>
>>>     Esperanza
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