[Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1
Mike Matthews
michaelstuart at gmail.com
Thu Jan 1 10:58:02 PST 2009
Wouldn't it be a 3 inch string on the nail to give a 6 inch diameter?
THL Eirik
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM,
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> 1. Re: Atlantian Seasonal Challenge (Jonathas)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:45:50 -0500
> From: Jonathas <Jonathas at redfoxden.org>
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge
> To: "John Atkins" <cogworks at triad.rr.com>, Eli <eli at eliw.com>,
> archers at atlantia.sca.org
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> My plan for this was to take a nail and tie a six inch string to it.
> That way I could push the nail into the center, and any arrow it
> touches is good.
>
> Jonathas
>
> On 12/31/08, John Atkins <cogworks at triad.rr.com> wrote:
> > Siegfried,
> > The intent was for the archer to choose which three arrows that would if
> > connected with lines form a triangle. The center of that triangle
> > determines a center point for the circle from which to measure. In my
> > experiements with this shoot I simply define which three arrows
> > determine the center then use a ruler butted against that "center" to
> > measure with. Admittedly the measuring here is not as exact as the
> > rings on our Royal Round target faces.
> >
> > Let me know if this helps to clarify and if so, I'll amend the rules
> > thus.
> >
> > cog
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eli [mailto:eli at eliw.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:39 AM
> > To: Jonathas; John Atkins
> > Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge
> >
> >
> > Jonathas & COG ... Mind clarifying this for me?
> >
> > Reading this, I get very confused ... and it may not just be me.
> >
> > The rules state to 'choose 3 arrows to form a center to measure a circle
> > from'.
> >
> > Does this mean you are making THREE 3" radius circles? Or somehow using
> > 3 shafts together as a circle? (Doing high math trying to figure out
> > the 'center' of those three shafts)
> >
> > You might need to clarify that ... I think that you mean THREE circles
> > (I think), because the other option seems to be far too complicated.
> > However the description says 'a circle' ... as in one.
> >
> > Confusedly Yours,
> > Siegfried
> >
> >
> > Jonathas wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> Thanks for pointing out the glitch. I'll get the What's Next fixed so
> >
> >> the rules show like they are supposed to.
> >>
> >> In the mean time here is what it will say tomorrow....
> >>
> >> *Shoot Begins:* Thursday, January 1, 09
> >> *Shoot Ends:* Tuesday, March 31, 09
> >> *Scores must be Submitted by:* Friday, April 3, 09
> >>
> >> *Rules:*
> >> Archers will shoot 3 ends of 10 arrows each at a distance of 20 yards.
> >
> >> After each end is shot, the archer will determine which three arrows
> >> will define a "center" from which to measure a 3 inch radius (6 inch
> >> diameter) circle. Any arrow either in or touching the circle gains one
> >
> >> point. Any shaft stuck in the frame of the butt or in the ground does
> >> not count even if "technically" inside the measured circle (i.e. the
> >> "center" of the circle is very low on the butt). Maximum possible
> >> score per end is 10, 30 for the entire shoot. The purpose of this
> >> shoot is to practice grouping shafts. Any butt may be used and a
> >> target face is not required. All three ends must be shot
> >> consecutively. That is you may not practice between ends. This shoot
> >> will have two divisions, crossbow and handbow. Handbow includes all
> >> longbows and recurves. NOTE: If there is a tie at the end of this
> >> shoot (one each for crossbow and handbow), there will be two week
> >> shoot off. The shoot off will be of a similar nature, slightly
> >> modified. If there remains a tie after the two week shoot off, the
> >> winners share the bragging rights!
> >>
> >> In Service,
> >> Jonathas
> >>
>
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>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:32:18 -0500
> From: "John Atkins" <cogworks at triad.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge
> To: "'Jonathas'" <Jonathas at redfoxden.org>, "'Eli'" <eli at eliw.com>,
> <archers at atlantia.sca.org>
> Message-ID: <004301c96b76$1c9b69f0$6501a8c0 at CoGWorks>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> That works fine. One point about the shoot though is that an archer
> does not have to group their arrows at the center of the target. Hence
> the name Easy Grouping. The value here is that if an archer can group
> their shafts then all they need to do for higher scores is change their
> aiming point.
>
> cog
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: james.kriebel at gmail.com [mailto:james.kriebel at gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Jonathas
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:46 PM
> To: John Atkins; Eli; archers at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge
>
>
> My plan for this was to take a nail and tie a six inch string to it.
> That way I could push the nail into the center, and any arrow it touches
> is good.
>
> Jonathas
>
> On 12/31/08, John Atkins <cogworks at triad.rr.com> wrote:
> > Siegfried,
> > The intent was for the archer to choose which three arrows that would
> > if connected with lines form a triangle. The center of that triangle
> > determines a center point for the circle from which to measure. In my
>
> > experiements with this shoot I simply define which three arrows
> > determine the center then use a ruler butted against that "center" to
> > measure with. Admittedly the measuring here is not as exact as the
> > rings on our Royal Round target faces.
> >
> > Let me know if this helps to clarify and if so, I'll amend the rules
> > thus.
> >
> > cog
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eli [mailto:eli at eliw.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:39 AM
> > To: Jonathas; John Atkins
> > Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge
> >
> >
> > Jonathas & COG ... Mind clarifying this for me?
> >
> > Reading this, I get very confused ... and it may not just be me.
> >
> > The rules state to 'choose 3 arrows to form a center to measure a
> > circle from'.
> >
> > Does this mean you are making THREE 3" radius circles? Or somehow
> > using 3 shafts together as a circle? (Doing high math trying to
> > figure out the 'center' of those three shafts)
> >
> > You might need to clarify that ... I think that you mean THREE circles
>
> > (I think), because the other option seems to be far too complicated.
> > However the description says 'a circle' ... as in one.
> >
> > Confusedly Yours,
> > Siegfried
> >
> >
> > Jonathas wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> Thanks for pointing out the glitch. I'll get the What's Next fixed
> >> so
> >
> >> the rules show like they are supposed to.
> >>
> >> In the mean time here is what it will say tomorrow....
> >>
> >> *Shoot Begins:* Thursday, January 1, 09
> >> *Shoot Ends:* Tuesday, March 31, 09
> >> *Scores must be Submitted by:* Friday, April 3, 09
> >>
> >> *Rules:*
> >> Archers will shoot 3 ends of 10 arrows each at a distance of 20
> >> yards.
> >
> >> After each end is shot, the archer will determine which three arrows
> >> will define a "center" from which to measure a 3 inch radius (6 inch
> >> diameter) circle. Any arrow either in or touching the circle gains
> >> one
> >
> >> point. Any shaft stuck in the frame of the butt or in the ground does
>
> >> not count even if "technically" inside the measured circle (i.e. the
> >> "center" of the circle is very low on the butt). Maximum possible
> >> score per end is 10, 30 for the entire shoot. The purpose of this
> >> shoot is to practice grouping shafts. Any butt may be used and a
> >> target face is not required. All three ends must be shot
> >> consecutively. That is you may not practice between ends. This shoot
> >> will have two divisions, crossbow and handbow. Handbow includes all
> >> longbows and recurves. NOTE: If there is a tie at the end of this
> >> shoot (one each for crossbow and handbow), there will be two week
> >> shoot off. The shoot off will be of a similar nature, slightly
> >> modified. If there remains a tie after the two week shoot off, the
> >> winners share the bragging rights!
> >>
> >> In Service,
> >> Jonathas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:57 PM, ndcsive <ndcsive at cox.net
> >> <mailto:ndcsive at cox.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Can anyone tell me what the next Seasonal Challenge is? I can see
> > on the
> >> website that it is listed under "What's Next", and it is called
> > Easy
> >> Grouping but can't read what the rules or anything for it are
> > because it
> >> comes and says that the shoot hasn't started. Shouldn't I be able
> > to see
> >> what the next shoot is going to be before it starts? So I know if
> > I have
> >> to get or make a target for it? and also see when the shoot
> > starts? I
> >> thought maybe to see it I would have to sign on as a marshal but
> >> I
> > did
> >> and I still can't.
> >>
> >> Esperanza
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