[Archers] New Archer Names

Wed May 15 11:06:59 PDT 2002

While I agree that we are not heralds and should not be in any way the "name police", I do see where
Ignacio is coming from on this one.  Fantasy names that sound/look period are one thing, Conan the
Studmuffen (hey lots of people are named George W. but that doesn't mean they are the Prez) but I did a
double take when I saw one name in the list of scores waiting to be approved by the scorekeeper.  It is not
only fantasy, but IMHO, futuristic, as we today (2002) still day dream about doing this and having the
technology to do this (referring to the name).  Names should at least be in the spirit of the SCA, that is
something sounding somewhat period.

Jonathas

Tom Itchkawich wrote:

> Ignacio -
>
> Now hold on a second...I do not agree that number 1 is "the easy one."  We
> are marshals, not heralds or Laurels.  I agree we might ask them about
> their name coice, or suggest they talk to a herald about it IF THEY CARE
> ABOUT REGISTERING IT.  Our job is to make sure they have fun shooting and
> be safe while doing it.  I do not agree that we should be helping them out
> with their names unless they ask us to do so.
>
> Why should we rain on their parade and not put the name they chose up on
> the RR rankings list?  It is easy enough to change it later if they change
> their name.  Back in the old days, they were a little bit more forgiving on
> names, and did not require all this fuss. Hell, its a game, and we do it
> for fun. Live and let live, and leave this stuff to the heralds if the
> person ever deals with them about it.
>
> Nikolai
> Archery Marshal, not herald
>
>
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>
> A couple of issues. I apologize for being 'removed' as of late but work has
> grabbed 90% of my time lately. My SCA 'to it' list just keeps getting
> bigger and longer with no light in the tunnel.
>
> Issue #1 (the easy one)
> When a new archer, and new to the SCA, attends one of our events or
> practices, and participates in a Royal Round or IKAC we should be careful
> of how we submit their names to the respective scorkeepers.
>
> In keeping within the format of the SCA naming policies - If the new archer
> gives a name that tends toward the fantasy realm we should be prepared to:
> 1) talk to the archer and let them know that the name does not fit the
> normal SCA concepts.
> 2) verify if they play with some other type of group and if that is their
> valid name.
> 3) ask the archer if:
>     1) they could pick some other name, even if it is temporary, that is
> more appropriate for the SCA
>     2) the SCA name can be left blank until the archer can come up with an
> appropriate name. The SCA name can always be added later.
> This is also to inform Gregge not to approve names that are obviously or
> near fantasy until verification can be made with the submitting marshal on
> the validity of the name as a valid SCA type name. But at the same time let
> the scores be displayed with the archers mundane name. There is no reason
> to penalize the archer, by not displaying their scores, while a SCA name
> research is being conducted.
>
> Issue #2 (the dicey one)
> Waivers
> Thanks Corwyn for the quick response. And that clears things for me al
> little also. As I have not heard all the details yet and heard of the final
> result  I have been waiting for command decisions to change the present way
> we run things to roll down. And not just rumors.
>
> >From what was stated - at events we do not need to worry about waivers as
> they are bring signed for at Troll.
>
> And from what I understand we WILL be using the same waivers at practices
> that is normally signed at Troll. They are for any adult or child that is
> not a SCA member. It would be the duty of the marshal in charge of a
> practice to ensure that all participants have a blue card or a waiver. For
> the blue card holders - suggest the marshal get the expiration date on all
> their local archers and that way they might not have to check every time.
> Listing of the archers name and expiration on the clipboard with the score
> page is a possible.
>
> The waiver forms can be found at http://mol.atlantia.sca.org/forms.html
>
> >From what I understand the $1 fee was for heavy fighters that did not have
> their authorization card on the field with them.
>
> Ignacio
>
> Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service
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