[Ponte Alto] There WILL be practice!!!!!

Fri Aug 29 14:04:15 PDT 2008

Greetings Max!

Thank you Max and thank you Kevin for both clarifying Max's real intent which was only good and valuable for the Barony. I know how, in the heat of the moment with time pressing, completely harmless ideas can be hastily phrased in ways that might perhaps hurt or offend someone without the slightest intention of doing so, and I am convinced that this was one of those unfortunate situations. 

Over the years I have cancelled very very few heavy weapons practices in advance on account of the weather because by doing so I would be risking throwing away even a small but non-zero chance that we might still be able to have one. Had I to do this over again I would certainly have made a different decision, hoping that, as often happens, we would luck out with the weather even against 90% odds and be able to have our practice, at least for an hour or so. Fortunately in this case, I was happy to learn that thanks to Max's initiative and the weather unexpectedly holding, a number of gentles were able to get instruction, drill, slow work and have a nice time afterwards at Ledo's. 

In the future, I think the Seneschal's suggestion that if the weather looks bad the night before a practice, Max, as the main instructor of the Scholarium and an alternate heavy marshal at practice, and I should confer by email or phone and decide on a course of action, and send out an email at that time if we are actually going to cancel it.

Yours in Service,

Duncan The Elder

FYI For any gentles who need to reach me by phone prior to a practice my cell phone number is (703)801-6867.          

-----Original Message-----
>From: Max Nelson <maxntropy at att.net>
>Sent: Aug 29, 2008 1:55 PM
>To: The Barony of Ponte Alto <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
>Subject: Re: [Ponte Alto] There WILL be practice!!!!!
>
>Kevin:
>
>Much more courteously and appropriately put then my missive typed in  
>haste and with misspellings.
>
>Thank you for clarifying and for stating in the terms that I would  
>much have preferred to have chosen if I had the time, forethought, and  
>sufficient calm and presence of mind than I did on the run yesterday.
>
>I apologize if my abrupt missive sent in haste yesterday offended  
>anyone.
>
>Max Von Halstern
>
>
>On Aug 29, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Kevin Maxson wrote:
>
>> I agree with you, but Max is listed as a marshal, and he's very-newly
>> minted, so it's got to be somewhat current.  The changeover should
>> have happened before that, so perhaps there's an issue with paperwork?
>> (Unless the timing is irrelevant, and one thing is current while
>> another isn't.)  That's why I said, "according to the web site".  In
>> any case, I have no doubt that you have everything under control.
>>
>> If I were to make a point, it's that Ponte Alto has many marshals who
>> can legally oversee a heavy weapons practice.  The marshallate
>> considers all warranted marshals in the group who are not the top
>> officer to be "deputies".
>>
>> In my humble opinion as a long-time marshal and quondam baronial
>> knight marshal, practice could have been held without issue.  The
>> deputy marshal assigned to be responsible canceled the practice based
>> on his withdrawal from the field.  Perfectly normal: no marshal, no
>> practice.  Any of the people on the list I posted could have replied
>> with, "I will take responsibility for tonight's practice - people may
>> still come if they choose."  All of us are deputy marshals.  That
>> marshal who assumes responsibility is now tasked to watch over the
>> fighting, to inspect armor and weapons, to make sure everyone has a
>> waiver in hand or on file, and to add to the knight marshal's
>> reports/waivers.
>>
>> As to "canceled" or not, I would feel uncomfortable reverting a senior
>> (in the sense of office) marshal's reasonable call.  In this case, I
>> think that so long as no rules are broken and there is no safety
>> issue, Max had a right to say, "I will take over responsibility for
>> on-site safety tonight, and we need only cancel if conditions warrant
>> in real time."  I could have done the same thing.  The practice is a
>> regular meeting of the barony's, and so long as there is a warranted
>> officer to keep things legal, all is good.  This is unlike an event's
>> combat, where if the MiC cancels (and no senior officer - Earl
>> Marshal/Crown - steps in), it's done because he/she signed a form for
>> the event.
>>
>>
>> 2008/8/29 Katharine Devereaux <katdevereaux at hotmail.com>:
>>> One clarification on this. The website may not be correct (as in  
>>> this case
>>> it is not - as Duncan is still listed as the Knight Marshal), due  
>>> to other
>>> circumstances. Connor is our Knight Marshal and that is not updated  
>>> on the
>>> website.
>>>
>>> If there are any questions about who holds what position, please  
>>> contact me.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Katharine
>>> Baronial Seneschal
>>>
>>> 571-239-2183
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:15:57 -0400
>>>> From: Kevin at Maxson.com
>>>> To: ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ponte Alto] There WILL be practice!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> According to the marshals' site, the title is still "knight  
>>>> marshal".
>>>> (But yeah, I thought that was changing, too. Hmm.) Ponte Alto
>>>> actually has quite a few "deputy knight marshals" who can oversee
>>>> armored combat. Here's the current roster:
>>>>
>>>> Cooper, Duncan L. (Duncan McClay "the Elder") Knight Marshal
>>>> Coughlin, Jonathan (Jonah Mac Coghlan) Deputy Knight Marshal
>>>> Dionisio, Robert Anthony (Guy Lestrange) Deputy Knight Marshal
>>>> French, Jeffrey (Jurgen Gottsfurboter) Deputy Knight Marshal
>>>> Houghton, Kevin M. (Connor Sinclair de Winterfell) Deputy Knight  
>>>> Marshal
>>>> Hundley, Thomas P (Thomas of Calais) Deputy Knight Marshal
>>>> Maxson, Kevin (Kevin of Thornbury) Deputy Knight Marshal
>>>> Miller, Nellie (Agnes Daunce) Deputy Knight Marshal
>>>> Nelson, Max (Maximilian von Halstern) Deputy Knight Marshal
>>>> Ruttle, Michael (Colin Gordon) Deputy Knight Marshal
>>>> Smith, Jason (Andrew Grey) Deputy Knight Marshal
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:47 AM, agnes daunce <agnes_daunce at yahoo.com 
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Are they still referring to barional marshall/deputy as knight  
>>>>> marshall?
>>>>> Agnes Daunce
>>>>
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