[Ponte Alto] Building the Baronial Army and Recruitment.

[Redd Cook]

the baroney has several sets of loaner armor and i can make ya a set oc 
plastic armor or even something outta heavy alumium if asked i attend sunday 
heavy pratace and ill help i have even been know to loan a new fighter my 
armor all they need to do is ask ill be at this sundays pratace and ill 
bring my set if anyone cares to ask to borrow it
                                                                     Redd

>From: Mark Costner <markdcostner at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: The Barony of Ponte Alto <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
>To: The Barony of Ponte Alto <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
>Subject: Re: [Ponte Alto] Building the Baronial Army and Recruitment.
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:41:54 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Sir Guy,
>
>   Please let me give you my recent perspective on joining the local 
>chapter of the SCA.  After reading your and Lord Will's e-mail I think you 
>might find my thoughts helpful.
>
>   I have been trying to join for a while now.  It has been a good 
>experience so far, particularly the coaching I have received from 
>Strykheart and Cosmo.  I am motivated to be involved but my participation 
>has been limited by lack of armor.  I don't want to spend twice so I need 
>to choose my armor purchases wisely.  I cannot choose wisely without 
>experience.  I cannot get meaningful experience without fighting.  Reading 
>Bellatrix is a great start, but I need to get into the pit and start really 
>learning.  To this, I need to drop lots of money on armor I do not intend 
>to keep or I need to borrow gear.  Thus far, I have not identified heavy 
>gear to use.  I admit I have only asked a few people, but the system in 
>place does not make it easy for a new guy to chat up strangers and ask if 
>they have any left over greaves they are no longer using.
>
>   More directly, I have a string of ideas that leads to a conclusion.  
>Many will not be news, just the path to the conclusion.
>
>   Let me put them in order, as they pertain to Heavy Fighting.  (Light is 
>a bit easier)
>
>   Advertising is good.  Brings new people.
>   New people have only once to get a good impression.
>   A good impression helps them come back.
>   You have a few sessions before people need to get into the game.
>   Full armor is expensive and hard to come by, most starters cannot afford 
>it.  Many potential joins will leave that this point.  This is an avoidable 
>loss.
>   Loaner Armor is very, very good.
>   If you have new people showing up when loaner armor is available, you 
>are good.
>   (I saw this in Michigan.  Barony of Andelcrag, Canton of Rimsholt.  
>Jointed pickle barrels for all noobs, returned at the end of the day.)
>   If you have average people showing up in greater numbers than you have 
>gear to loan, many will leave.
>   Those that leave because there was not enough loaner armor are lost and 
>no longer candidates.  They were recruited at the wrong time.
>   Recruiting the right people at the wrong time is counter productive.
>   It would be better to have them come when there is loaner armor 
>available.  Retention is improved if you recruited the right people at the 
>right time.
>
>   Conclusion: recruitment is very good, but do not exceed your ability to 
>integrate them into the game.
>
>Marine Corps training tells me not to complain unless I have a solution in 
>mind.  My solution, we get a small group of laborers and a couple of 
>knowledgeable armor benders and make a number of full sets of jointed 
>plastic armor, factory style.  You tell me just how many sets of plastic 
>pickle barrel armor 6 people and one trained riveter can make in an 
>afternoon.  Call it an armor quilting bee.
>
>   The plastic armor has two other advantages.  First, it allows an instant 
>measure of the combatants skill.  There is a rough scale of plastic and 
>time in combat.  You know to take it easy on the plastic ones and that they 
>should be open for teaching.
>   Advantage number two, most people want to get out of it.  They will 
>spend the coin more readily to upgrade.  If the loaner armor is overly 
>nice, you may never get it back.  (In my short time I have already seen 
>this.  I assume it is commonplace)
>
>   I am afraid I don't have a good suggestion on the helms but I hear that 
>almost everyone has upgraded from a starter helm to a more advanced helm.  
>Are those cast-offs available for loaners?  Has anyone asked?  I also can't 
>help but notice that there is a long list of people that no longer come.  
>That is under used gear.  On the other hand, asking retired fighters if 
>they are really really done with that armor is a good way to get them back 
>to the field.  Time may have healed the disillusionment of the past.
>
>   Just a few thoughts from someone trying hard to join, but spend his 
>money and time wisely.  Take it for what it is worth.  Maybe nothing.  Over 
>to you.
>
>   Mark Costner
>   Persona to be determined ......
>
>
>guylestran at aol.com wrote:
>     An SCA member who will be moving to the Fort Mead Aree came up with 
>this plan try try and get enough people to fill two triads.  Well really 4 
>people since he and his wife are fighting.
>
>   I wonder if we have done this sort of research into Ponte Alto and takn 
>a more organized aspect to recruitment.  I noticed there was a comic book 
>thing in Tysons Cornor every monthor so.  Is this the sort of thing we want 
>to get the word out at.
>
>   What kind of ideas do we have.  Is there anyplce around Goerge Mason 
>(thought I would think they are going into finals) where we could practice 
>in where people could see us.  While our park is well estabished it doesn't 
>seem to help our numbers.
>
>   What sort of ideas does everyone have?
>
>   Do we have any sort of flyers we could give out during the practice on 
>Sunday?
>
>   Sir Guy
>
>   see below Lord Will's plan.
>       <<We would recruit for the Baron’s Bunch, AFTER the additional 
>three sets of armour are done and ready to be put on people. We won't 
>recruit until we're ready to put people actually in the Baron's Bunch 
>loaner armour. The draw would be that newbies can just step right into the 
>armour and fight with us at the triad practices as a "test drive".
>   We’d advertise at the seven movie theaters and ten comic book shops to 
>capitalize on the romanticism of fighting.
>   We’d advertise at the gyms to focus on the exercise of fighting.
>   We’d advertise at the malls and schools to get the masses. Possibly a 
>demo would even be good. I could work it with the schools for the 
>historical aspect and the malls for the "mass-draw" aspect of free 
>advertising ("Come watch the fight!").
>   We’d advertise at the police forces to get people who are trained in 
>shield wall tactics, but might not get a chance to use them as much as 
>they’d like. This would also be our in with the local government. If 
>someone complains about us the police we have in the triads can say we’re 
>OK and we’re training for riot control sort of.
>   We’d advertise at the archery range to see if we can get combat 
>archers. I know that people don’t like combat archers, but it would be so 
>we can focus on the combined arms concept of warfare. Maybe we could even 
>get some siege engine people out of it.
>
>   Within a 10 mile radius there are:
>   Movie Theaters (7):
>   Muvico Egyptian 24 - 7000 Arundel Mills Cir, Hanover, MD (443) 755-8992
>   Cinema Depot LLC, 8955 Henkels Ln, Annapolis Jct, MD, (301) 604-0894
>   Pasadena Theatre Co Inc 8377 Jumpers Hole Rd, Millersville, MD (410) 
>975-0200
>   Jumpers Cinemas 8120 Jumpers Hole Rd, Pasadena, MD (410) 768-9999
>   Movies At Marley Station 7900 Ritchie Hwy, Glen Burnie, MD (410) 
>760-3300
>   U A Marley Station 8 7900 Governor Ritchie Hwy, Glen Burnie, MD (410) 
>760-3300
>   Stagefront Tickets Inc 14502 Greenview Drive, Laurel, MD (800) 250-2525
>   Gyms (10)
>   Premier Fitness 1103 Annapolis Rd, Odenton, MD (410) 672-1888
>   Curves 1215 Annapolis Rd, Odenton, MD (410) 305-1370
>   Odenton Barber Tanning & Ftnss 1141 Annapolis Rd, Odenton, MD (410) 
>674-6801
>   Transformations Fitness-Women 2288 Blue Water Blvd, Odenton, MD (410) 
>674-7403 Bee Fit for Life, 129 Hidden Hill circle, Odentom, MD (410) 
>674-5647
>   Severn Valley Tennis Club 740 State Route 3 S, Gambrills, MD (410) 
>923-2100
>   Lady of America Fitness Center 2664 Chapel Lake Dr, Gambrills, MD (410) 
>451-0077
>   Boxing Xtreme & Fitness 1131 Benfield Blvd # M-Q, Millersville, MD (410) 
>729-3900
>   SK Divers 502 Fanleaf Ct, Severn, MD (301) 440-0135
>   Severna Park Racquetball Club 8514 Veterans Hwy, Millersville, MD (410) 
>987-0980
>   Comic Book Shops (10)
>   Empyre Comics Inc 330 Hospital Dr, Glen Burnie, MD (410) 761-8224
>   America's Heroes 300 Crain Hwy S, Glen Burnie, MD (410) 761-9797
>   Twilight Zone Comics The 18 Crain Hwy N, Glen Burnie, MD (410) 766-0480
>   Games & Comics & Stuff 7476 Baltimore Annapolis Blvd, Glen Burnie, MD 
>(410) 863-7410
>   Alliance Comics 6820 Race Track Rd # 101, Bowie, MD (301) 352-4322
>   Comic Classics 365 Main St, Laurel, MD (301) 490-9811
>   Comics To Astonish 9400 Snowden River Pkwy # 112, Columbia, MD (410) 
>381-2732
>   Fudds Rabbithole of Ceramics 8519 Fort Smallwood Rd, Pasadena, MD (410) 
>437-2191
>   Elmer J Banister Jr 8519 Fort Smallwood Rd, Pasadena, MD (410) 437-5542
>   Fudds Rabbit Hole 8519 Fort Smallwood Rd # A, Pasadena, MD (410) 
>437-5542
>   Malls (2)
>   Severna Park Mall 555 Ritchie Hwy, Severna Park, MD (410) 647-9106
>   Laurel Centre Mall Management 14828 Baltimore Ave, Laurel, MD (301) 
>953-3300
>   Colleges (3)
>   University of MD College Park Zimborski Ave, Odenton, MD (410) 674-7012
>   Anne Arundel Community College 8601 Zimborski Ave, Ft George Meade, MD 
>(410) 672-3554
>   Strayer University 1520 Jabez Run, Millersville, MD (410) 923-2212
>   Maryland Institute of Justice 8424 Veterans Hwy # 3, Millersville, MD 
>(410) 987-6665
>   Police Forces (4)
>   Anne Arundel County Police 8495 Veterans Hwy, Millersville, MD (410) 
>222-8050
>   Directorate of Emergency Services Law Enforcement Division 8042 Leslie 
>Rd, Fort George G Meade, MD (410) 672-4212
>   Crofton Police Dept 1576 Crofton Pkwy, Crofton, MD (410) 721-2301
>   Maryland State Police: Glen Burnie Barrack P 6800 Aviation Blvd, Glen 
>Burnie, MD (410) 761-5130
>   Archery (1)
>   Bay Country Archery 5 Light Street Ave, Pasadena, MD (410) 647-7595 >>
>
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