[Ponte Alto] RE: Ponte-Alto Digest, Vol 17, Issue 2

Thu Sep 2 12:39:12 PDT 2004

I see Isabella's point of view, but I think she's advocating very strongly 
for something that is just not possible.  Most men and women I know wouldn't 
walk alone in a dark part of the inner city if they were aware that crimes 
had been occuring there.  Why should common sense take a vacation along with 
the rest?  Note that I included both genders- a man can be knocked out and 
robbed as easily as a woman.  Being armed isn't much of a solution for 
either gender if one is unconcious.  Is there any harm in having a friendly 
someone to walk one home?  I don't think so.  There's a reason that "there's 
safety in numbers" is such a well-known idiom.

Jericho is my mother and lives within the confines of the Barony of Ponte 
Alto, as do I.  I saw her sliced and bleeding hands, and the blood of her 
attacker on the mug that she used to defend herself.  Please don't simply 
discount this as "just a story".  No matter if this was your tenth Pennsic 
or your thirty-third Pennsic, there's always a chance that things occur that 
you may not have personal knowledge of.  Asking for caution, common sense, 
and information that may be available to bring an attacker to justice is not 
a blind call for removal of freedom.

You said so yourself... "creeps" can look like anyone else in the 
darkness... even you.  I'd hate to have security groups hassling passers by 
for mere suspicions.  It seems a lot more beneficial to simply ask a friend 
to walk with me.

Kisan of the Lowlands

>From: "Sarah Pearson" <spearson at aypf.org>
>Reply-To: The Barony of Ponte Alto <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
>To: <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
>Subject: [Ponte Alto] RE: Ponte-Alto Digest, Vol 17, Issue 2
>Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:41:29 -0400
>
>This is in response to the "Woman Attacked" message.
>
><Apologies in advance for the following rant.> I don't cotton to the idea 
>of
>advocating for escorts for women at Pennsic. This account below is pretty
>much what was described to us at the Black Talon camp and, of course, there
>was a similar story last year...and the year before....and again we hear 
>the
>appeal, "Please, do not let your women walk unescorted after dark at
>Pennsic." <heavy sigh> I've been to 10 Pennsic Wars, been walking around
>late, and I mean late, and I've seen some creepy people (and some may have
>thought I was creepy too, in the dark). I've never been fearful, always 
>kept
>my wits about me and never been attacked, seen an attack, or heard directly
>of an attack near the swamp or anywhere else. Some might want us to adopt a
>policy that leads to the slippery slope of victim mentality and I say,
>no...rather chose the path of the warrior.
>
>Freedom is a terrible thing to lose, so I advocate for taking a proactive
>position of strength, say, something like volunteers for moonlight patrols
>to hunt for the type of creep that would attack woman or man. I would do
>this rather than take a fearful position that places the added
>responsibility of arranging an escort for women. What a bore! Many of us
>come to Pennsic to escape just this kind of sillyness. Pennsic is a 
>peaceful
>and friendly place yet these stories keep popping up like spam
>advertisements to remind us to be fearful. Perhaps women who travel in
>darkness should take after the Tuchux and carry a weapon with them. Blah!
>
>Isabella
>
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 09:39:11 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Catalina dell' Acqua <akgnome at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Ponte Alto] Woman Attacked at Pennsic
>To: Ponte-Alto at atlantia.sca.org
>Message-ID: <20040901163911.65209.qmail at web41312.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Greetings all!
>
>This is taken with permission from a post on another
>message board.  Some of you may have already heard
>this.  These words come from the victim herself.
>Please cross-post.
>
>Woman Attacked at Pennsic
>Thursday, August 19, around 4:30 am Jericho the Red of
>Timberwolfe was attacked while walking from the Lost
>Boys (block W20) to Timberwolfe (block E28). Her
>attack was reported to both security and the local
>police while on site, but her attacker is still at
>large.
>The details are as follows: She passed a man who
>appeared to be stumbling drunk. As soon as she passed
>him he hit her on the back of the head with a blunt
>object and knocked her down to the ground on the side
>of the road. He had a knife, which he tried to get to
>her throat. He cut her hands as she deflected the
>knife. She repeatedly bashed him in the face with her
>pewter mug and managed to kick him off of her. He is
>between 5"8" and 6", dark shoulder length hair (or
>thereabouts), goatee, medium skin tone, light eyes,
>medium build. He was wearing a blackwatch kilt at the
>time and no tatoos on the chest or upper arms. He
>knocked her down hard enough for her to have seriously
>deep tissue bruising, but besides that, the cuts on
>her hands and the emotional upset she was un-harmed,
>as he ran off when she proved to be a fighter. She
>also now has a slight case of poison ivy, which may
>have occured from the side of the road, so he may also
>have poison ivy in addition to the facial lacerations
>on the left side of his face, particularly near the
>brow bone and damage rib cage.
>If you have possible tips or leads please contact PA
>state Police, Butler County, 724-284-8100 We were
>unable to get this in the Pennsic Independent, but
>want as many people to know as possible, as others'
>safety may be at stake. Please, do not let your women
>walk unescorted after dark at Pennsic. We are also
>asking that swampie camps povide and care for two
>tikis to keep and maintain along the dark part of the
>road on the Great Middle Highway and the Causeway near
>E28.
>
>if you have any questions..
>contact me,
>Jericho the Red
>jerichothered at hotmail.com
>
>
>
>YIS
>Catalina
>
>
>
>
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