[Ponte Alto] Sandor
Sarah Pearson
spearson at aypf.org
Mon Aug 30 06:22:00 PDT 2004
Hi Sandor! Are you a fighter?
Hey, are folks coming out to the Thursday fighter's practice at Pimmet?
Hint...hint.
Isabella Candeloro
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1. Greetings from Sandor the Newbie (S?ndor Vitez)
2. Fw: [Costumers] [Fwd: Robin Netherton Classes in October]
(Jessica Maxson)
3. Re: More Pennsic Photos (Christopher Call)
4. Re: More Pennsic Photos (Mary Bowles)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:39:45 -0500
From: S?ndor Vitez <n5lf at arrl.net>
Subject: [Ponte Alto] Greetings from Sandor the Newbie
To: <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
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Hi all! I am a newcomer to SCA, although I had friends in it throughout my
college days, and since from time to time.
I am a long-time folk dancer, so the dancing is a particular interest of
mine. I've done English Country workshops with George Fogg over the last
10-15 years, and a little contra dance, but I am primarily a Balkan &
Central European international folkdancer (since 1978).
There are many other things I'd like to explore too - possibly rapier since
I fenced in college on the SMU team. But I'm an old fellow now (47) so who
knows. Lots of other Arts & Science things to persue as well!
I plan on going to the Atlantia University this October. What fun that
looks like!
I've been researching for a couple of months and am of Hungarian heritage
(2nd generation US-born). So, tentatively, I am taking on a Hungarian
(western Transylvania) persona - No nothing to do with dracula (yuk)! More
of a Jewish liquor/wine merchant turned Innkeeper & Tavern owner.
Transylvania was the eastern part of Hungary from 600-800 AD until after WW
I. In the late 1400s through 1500s it became an autonomous principality, and
was a bit more tolerant of Jews than the western, Habsburg-dominated half.
So, there were better career opportunities for a Jewish persona in Calvinist
Transylvania (eastern Hungary) than in the Catholic Royal Hungary (Habsburg
western Hungary).
Best opportunities for any minorities were in the Turkish-dominated
south-central Hungary at that time, but that wasn't the culture or costuming
I was after for my persona.
So, I will sign myself,
Sandor Vitez (Alexander the Gallant (or Brave, Valiant))
or, in Hungary where they put surname first,
Vitez Sandor
Mundanely,
Alan W. (Annandale, VA)
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:38:48 -0400
From: "Jessica Maxson" <Jessica at SummerTreeMosaics.com>
Subject: [Ponte Alto] Fw: [Costumers] [Fwd: Robin Netherton Classes in
October]
To: <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
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FYI...
--Giuliana
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From: Brenna of Storvik
To: costumers
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 5:27 AM
Subject: [Costumers] [Fwd: Robin Netherton Classes in October]
To bring you up to date on the Robin Netherton Lectures in DC October 16,
2004.
The Cost is $35.00 for those who pre-register. If space is still available,
cost at the door will be $50.00. To pre-register, mail your check or money
order to Jerry Rorstrom-Lee, 600 Cedar Street NW, Washington, DC 20012.
The classes will be at the Sligo-Dennis Avenue Recreation Center at
Sligo-Dennis Avenue Local Park (10200 Sligo Creek Parkway) in Silver Spring,
Maryland.
Classes will start at 9:00.
The Classes are:
The Gothic Fitted Dress
The fitted fashion popular throughout much of Europe in the late
14th century and early 15th century has been the object of much
speculation, regarding such matters as who wore it, how it was made, and
even what it was called. (The term "cotehardie," often applied to this
style, was most likely not the term used by the women who wore it.) A
detailed analysis shows the various versions and uses of this style, how
it evolved from earlier unfit
ted fashions, and how it formed the basis for
the development of the more structured fashions of the 15th and 16th
centuries. The lecture examines some likely construction techniques as
well as the social significance of the fashion and its presentation in
artwork.
The Greenland Gored Gown
Costume references frequently cite the garment finds from the 14th-
century cemetery at Herjolfsnes, Greenland, as examples of medieval
European clothing construction. This lecture re-examines some common
assumptions about these gowns in light of overlooked details in the
original study report, the cultural context of the Greenland colony, and
the likely methods of clothing construction used by the Greenlanders. The
discussion gives special attention to the oft-cited "10-gore" gown and how
it might influence our understanding of 14th-century European fashion.
The 15th-Century V-Neck Gown
The so-called "Burgundian" style that dominates much of 15th-century
fashion in Western Eu
rope is in fact two separate styles, which have
distinctive characteristics and are apparently constructed in two
completely different ways. An examination of artwork over the course of
the century demonstrates the differences and provides clues as to how the
two styles developed and the ways in which they may have been made.
When Medieval Meets Victorian: The Roots of Modern Costume Sources
Too often, today's costume sources present "facts" about medieval
and Renaissance costume that are actually misinterpretations dating from
the Victorian era. This lecture traces the development of modern costume
scholarship and examines the motives and methods of 19th-century costume
historians. Armed with this information, 21st-century costumers can learn
how to recognize -- and compensate for -- Victorian influence in current
sources.
The Problem of Women's Heraldic Dress
The image of the medieval noblewoman wearing a gown that displays
a full-body coat-of-arms has long been popular
among costume historians,
theater designers, artists, and re-enactors. However, an analysis of
archaeological evidence, documentary records, and visual images from the
period raises serious questions about the nature and use of such clothing.
Practical construction problems complicate the issue further. This lecture
traces the development of the modern concept of women's heraldic dress and
examines the options for the modern re-enactor faced with reconciling the
popular image with the historical evidence.
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 01:12:20 -0500
From: "Christopher Call" <cacall at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [Ponte Alto] More Pennsic Photos
To: "The Barony of Ponte Alto" <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
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Thanks Mary. Sorry there's no pics of me. I remember being in a few shots,
but I can't remember who took them. Actually, I'm having a hard time
remembering quite a few things that happened that week....I must be getting
old. I did have one pic with you in it, but it was taken at night and came
out so badly underdeveloped that it wasn't worth posting. I'll try harder
next year.
I hope your arm is feeling better. Hopefully it won't be long before you can
go out there and bash someone who really deserves it. In the meantime, I
hope being seneschal isn't too much of a hassle, but that's what you get for
hobnobbing with royals and being a good member of society.
See you in January,
Chris
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From: Mary Bowles
To: The Barony of Ponte Alto
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Ponte Alto] More Pennsic Photos
Hi Gainor,
Lovely photo's? Where is the picture of you?
Maria-Therese
Christopher Call <cacall at rcn.com> wrote:
Yet another set of fetching Pennsic XXXIII photos,
Courtesy of Gainor, your Irish friend from the west.
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 05:59:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mary Bowles <mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ponte Alto] More Pennsic Photos
To: The Barony of Ponte Alto <ponte-alto at atlantia.sca.org>
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Hi Chris (?),
No no no it must be Gainer. :) The arm is okay but getting annoying. I can
work. That's the good news but last night I woke myself up by braining
myself with the darned cast. Kat wants me to see a doctor to make sure its
healing well but I'm of the inclination to wait--not being insured and with
employment agency dragging its feet over this issue--its too expensive.
Oh and thank for the chopstick. My arm appreciates it. I can feel this
skin peeling uder the cast oohhhhhh. :( Most annoying.
Don't worry about my picture coming out, the only ones I take well are when
I don't know they're being taken. Besides I think I was flipping you off.
And what's this aobut not remembering Pennsic, you can't have drunk that
much, can you?
See you in January. It'll be a blast.
Mary
the walking wounded
Christopher Call <cacall at rcn.com> wrote:
Thanks Mary. Sorry there's no pics of me. I remember being in a few shots,
but I can't remember who took them. Actually, I'm having a hard time
remembering quite a few things that happened that week....I must be getting
old. I did have one pic with you in it, but it was taken at night and came
out so badly underdeveloped that it wasn't worth posting. I'll try harder
next year.
I hope your arm is feeling better. Hopefully it won't be long before you can
go out there and bash someone who really deserves it. In the meantime, I
hope being seneschal isn't too much of a hassle, but that's what you get for
hobnobbing with royals and being a good member of society.
See you in January,
Chris
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From: Mary Bowles
To: The Barony of Ponte Alto
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Ponte Alto] More Pennsic Photos
Hi Gainor,
Lovely photo's? Where is the picture of you?
Maria-Therese
Christopher Call <cacall at rcn.com> wrote:
Yet another set of fetching Pennsic XXXIII photos,
Courtesy of Gainor, your Irish friend from the west.
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