<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 6/13/02 1:10:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kisamul@yahoo.com writes:
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<BR>Please look at the original post again. As I mentioned before, the site
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<BR>documentation. It is a place to start. </BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>But if I can add to what Alanna has already said here, the heralds will tell you that it is better to start with a source that at least has dated material. Why? Because very often when people come to heralds for help documenting a name, it is not with this question: "I'd like a 10th century Irish name, can you help me research one?" Or even this question: "I'd like an Irish name, don't care what time frame as long as it's period, and I want it to begin with 'R'." Either of those is fine.
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<BR>What we most often get is this: "I'd like you to help me document the name Liam MacWallace." When we ask their source for the name, they tell us it came from a list of Irish and Scottish names, or they read it in a novel, or something similar. When we tell them that the name that they fell in love with, that they've been using for a year and a half, and everyone knows them by, is not period and not registerable . . . well, the best folks get dissapointed and the worse get angry.
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<BR>Which is why most heralds you talk to will emphatically reccomend that any source you use, even (and especially) begining sources, at least have dates. The research may not be good, the dates may have some errors, and you may have to do further research before you can document it. But at least it will prevent you from falling in love with a name that no one used before a 19th century novel.
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<BR>It's even worse when the dissapointed client tells us that the book or web page they used was reccomended to them by someone else in the SCA.
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<BR>I was going to reccomend a good site that had information on Irish, Scottish, and Manx names, but the URL doesn't seem to be working. Does anyone know where this page went?
<BR>http://www.panix.com/~mittle/names/qceltic.shtml
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