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<DIV>Wow! I just found out more about the College of Heralds than I found out in 10 years in the SCA. Thank you Alanna! It makes it a whole lot clearer when you know the whys of things.</DIV>
<DIV>Lady Geva</DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:rjwelenc@erols.com" title=rjwelenc@erols.com>Robert J Welenc</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A href="mailto:rjwelenc@erols.com" title=rjwelenc@erols.com>atlantia@atlantia.sca.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 6/5/01 12:36:30 AM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MR] heraldry</DIV>
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<DIV>> Confessing murder to my priest would be easier than ensuring that:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Quite possibly. Your priest would not likely feel like murdering you</DIV>
<DIV>in turn.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But to take your points one by one, just in case there are some folks</DIV>
<DIV>out there who might believe your notions:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> the form is not reduced by one percentage point when making copies;</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The facts: the requested size for the shield on the submission forms</DIV>
<DIV>is 5 inches by 6 inches, plus or minus no more than 1/2 inch.</DIV>
<DIV>That's 10 %, not 1 % -- a BIG margin of error.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> all lines in the rendering are at least 4 pixels wide (or the width</DIV>
<DIV>>of a #2 pencil when laid on its side and viewed from above); </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What is the width of a pixel, my lord? The facts: for years, both I</DIV>
<DIV>and my predecessors asked politely for lines to be drawn heavily</DIV>
<DIV>enough to photo-reduce properly. When they continued to be done</DIV>
<DIV>almost invisibly, we shrugged and redrew them. It was not until my</DIV>
<DIV>arthritic hands gave out on me that I snarled on this list and other</DIV>
<DIV>places that this state of affairs was to come to an end. And,</DIV>
<DIV>miraculously, the submitters of Atlantia discovered that they *could*</DIV>
<DIV>take 5 minutes to produce an acceptable drawing!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> the design can be grokked by a nearsighted lawyer when the 8.5 by</DIV>
<DIV>11</DIV>
<DIV>>piece of paper is reproduced and shrunk to the size of postage stamp</DIV>
<DIV>>(never mind that we are forbidden to take such steps on our</DIV>
<DIV>own...see</DIV>
<DIV>>point #1);</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You are comparing apples and frogs, my lord. **Laurel** insists on</DIV>
<DIV>the 5 by 6 inch shields -- and gets them. Two of the three colored</DIV>
<DIV>copies of your submission go to her. That same 5x6 shield, not the</DIV>
<DIV>full size sheet of paper, is what is reduced to go on the Letter of</DIV>
<DIV>Intent. The percentage of photoreduction is the preparer's choice.</DIV>
<DIV>Would you like me to keep them full sized? I can do so, but the</DIV>
<DIV>price of a submission would have to go up to $20 per element to cover</DIV>
<DIV>the cost of mailing a 30 to 40 page letter to 50 or 60 members of the</DIV>
<DIV>College of Arms. I believe that you and the other good gentles of</DIV>
<DIV>this kingdom would prefer to see them kept the same price that they</DIV>
<DIV>have been for the last 5 years.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> if someone who hasn't been a paid member since dirt was young</DIV>
<DIV>>registered a device that when set side by side and looked at under a</DIV>
<DIV>>black light seems to have only one point of difference;</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now you are railing at a system that has not been in effect for 12</DIV>
<DIV>years! We no longer use the term "point of difference".</DIV>
<DIV>Hair-splitting, you say? Perhaps -- but consider this, my lord:</DIV>
<DIV>Atlantia's acceptance rate at the Laurel level is *89%*, the highest</DIV>
<DIV>in the Known World, one of the most active heraldic establishments in</DIV>
<DIV>that same Known World. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> I must use the dirty, chewed on Crayola my 18 month son just</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You're too cheap to buy a big new box with 8 colors (yes, count 'em,</DIV>
<DIV>*8* good heraldic colors!) for 50 cents?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>have the whole thing rejected for style because I don't draw well.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There are scribes and heraldic artists in all parts of the kingdom;</DIV>
<DIV>if your corner is so benighted that there is none, clipart is widely</DIV>
<DIV>available on the web and elsewhere.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> All I'm saying is this: Please find ways to make it easier for</DIV>
<DIV>>people to have fun, get what they want and find satisfaction from</DIV>
<DIV>the</DIV>
<DIV>>working with the Heralds. It's all about customer service. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thank you sooo much, my lord, for making me, my office, and my</DIV>
<DIV>collleagues feel like pieces of shit. We really appreciate the</DIV>
<DIV>feedback.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Triton, when nobody else volunteers to do this job at the end of my</DIV>
<DIV>tenure, please turn it over to m'lord Colin -- becasue ***I*** sure</DIV>
<DIV>as hell won't re-up!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Alanna</DIV>
<DIV>***********</DIV>
<DIV>Saying of the day: You cannot unscramble eggs.</DIV>
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