[MR] Fall Coronation

[Catherine Buck Morgan]

What if someone from "Far North Atlantia" could work with a "local
arrangements person" in North Carolina (or vice versa)?

In other words, someone familiar with the site would serve as the eyes for
the far off autocrat, providing detailed answers to the autocrat's questions
about the site, etc.?

While I have not yet autocratted an event in the SCA, I have done so for
another organization where I was in one state, and the site was several
states away. This other organization has been doing such long distance
arrangements very successfully for several decades, so I know it can be
done.

I agree that locking a site in early is key. With documented agreement about
what such a site must have for a Coronation, it should be relatively simple
to book a site in advance that meets the qualifications.

This has been quite an enlightening discussion...

--Catguistl of Tintagol

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:51 PM, <atlantia-request at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> wrote:

>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 21:49:15 -0400
> From: Gerita della Mara <geritadellamara at gmail.com>
> To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] Fall Coronation
> Message-ID: <4DDB0E9B.2010800 at gmail.com>
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> Possibly true, but I'll tell you...you'll never get someone from Far
> North Atlantia to be willing to autocrat at an already-set site in North
> Carolina (or vice versa) without having spent considerable time on said
> site.  It's just not reasonable to expect someone to plan and staff an
> event at a site they have no idea what to expect from, and don't have to
> take a week off work to go and look over.
>
> Gerita
>
>
> On 5/23/2011 9:01 PM, Morgul wrote:
> > If memory serves, a couple of years ago, around the time of Logan and
> Esa's coronation, there was a discussion of using sites in central NC as the
> main site for Kingdom events such as coronation and crown tourney.  The
> Betsey Penn center was specifically recommended. I believe the goal was to
> have Kingdom events as centrally located in the Kingdom as possible. It
> would make attendance more feasible for most folks, as most people in SC
> aren't likely to make trips to VA or MD because of distance and lodging, and
> vice versa.
> > That may be the best alternative, to look for a couple of good sites in
> that area for Kingdom use.  As someone has already mentioned, having a site
> locked in and ready to go should make the task of getting bids easier.
> >
> > Just some thoughts...
> >
> > -Cian mac Ceallachain Ui Dubhlaich
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On May 23, 2011, at 12:01 PM, acresouth at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> I agree with all of your reasons and I will add one:
> >>
> >> There is a perception that the Prince/Princess prefer sites closer to
> their home base.  Bids in the North for crowning southern royalty seem to
> get rejected and vice-versa.  So similar to #3 below -- why bother to put
> together a bid when you perceive that you will be rejected due to past
> experience of "being too far to travel."
> >>
> >> I am not saying that Their Highnesses should not have the prerogative to
> select their coronation site, as a matter of fact, with the cost of
> gas/travel, it seems more likely they would and should stay closer to home.
> So, at present, that leaves a large number of groups that are far away
> hesitant about submitting bids.  Although I think it is quite ironic that
> the bid that has come in is from as far north as you can go and then some
> into another kingdom...
> >>
> >> Adriana di Salaparuta
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Michelle Cock<theoriginalmcc at gmail.com>
> >> To: Merry Rose<atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> >> Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 11:19 am
> >> Subject: Re: [MR] Fall Coronation
> >>
> >>
> >> I, too, may have missed some of the conversation, but I would love to
> >> ear from some of the folks that have autocratted a Coronation in the
> >> ecent past (since fall 2008, maybe). I suspect that there are a
> >> ultitude of reasons for a lack of bids, in addition the economy and
> >> ther concerns already expressed.  I offer the following four, which
> >> re unfortunate side-effects of the success of Atlantia:
> >> 1) Many potential autocrats don't know there is a lack of Coronation
> >> ids until too close to the event to plan.
> >> 2) Baronies and local groups are committed to planning more of their
> >> wn, small, local events.
> >> 2) People who submitted Coronation bids back when there were
> >> ultiples, and got their bid rejected, might not want to go through
> >> ll the planning just to have their bid rejected again.  (This same
> >> hing can happen after the plea goes out for last-minute bids.)
> >> 3) Autocrats treat Coronation planning with the same care that they
> >> ould put into planning a wedding.  Neither the planners nor the
> >> eople for whom the Coronation is being planned want to settle for a
> >> odest event.  This has many consequences, but it comes from great
> >> ntentions.
> >>
> >> eep up the ideas- maybe an "Above the Salt" prereg feast would work
> >> icely with some event sites. Maybe we need to look at early-bird
> >> iscounts that offset the ACCEPS service charge.  Maybe former Royals
> >> ho enjoyed their own Coronation need to ask their autocrats to hold
> >> lasses on autocratting that specific event.
> >> ~Wenllyan
> >> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Marie Stewart<maricelt at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> >>> What does a group really need to provide for a Coronation?
> >>   And I will admit  I'm thinking Barest Minimum here.
> >>
> >> A dry hall which is accessible to everyone.  Places to sit are useful.
> >> Bathrooms.  Some form of parking.
> >>
> >> Good things to provide,  but not Absolutely Crucial...  A place to
> change
> >> clothing.   A place for the Royals.  A place to cook/heat food.
>

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